"Gemini 4 Argon is only available with a Google AI Ultra plan, or per request with an API key. Upgrade for higher limits, advanced features, and more."
For complex workflows and use cases it's actually amazing. Once you understand the strengths of how different harnesses work, you realise the noise about them being bad is just low effort just because it's not being used the way it was intended. Cheers!!! 🥂
It seems to be running near a flat 5%. You can basic prompt on low 5%, ask complicated prompt on high 5%. Wondering if they are throttling it right now since it just dropped
I am really mad. First it takes pretty long for Google to finally release a competitive model, then they remove Pro entirely from agy while providing the Argon only to Ultra subscribers. So I was paying for a subscription with an old pro model while patiently waiting and I get exactly nothing in return. Even worse, now I even lost the old pro model. Fuck this.
You're not comprehending the message you are replying to and/or the text in the image. /u/cazador517 stated Pro subs get a monthly free API allowance (which is true, $10 in API credit), and your image clearly states you need an Ultra plan OR a Gemini API key. So go claim your monthly $10 API credit, then create an API key and there you go, Argon is available.
Why, ultra plan includes YouTube premium and a lot of storage. I pay for premium and got a gpt ultra plan, I would gladly return to Gemini should Gemini models be as good as Astra.
I think 100 bucks for ultra plan, shared as a family plan, including YouTube premium is a very good package, but only if ai is up to the tasks I need
I fear if they will do the same with next flash models. They must atleast keep flash models accessible in studio, otherwise what was the point of this enviroment then
I already have Codex and Claude Max. They both have proved themselves and earned the trust. Google hasn't. At least Google should let people have some limited quota to test how good it is. This is not a gacha to pay for 'the privilege' of being a guinea pig.
EDIT : I'm incorrect on this it's rolling out to Pro (don't got it yet) throughout today and it's for the Gemini app / web only for Pro no dev tools. I don't know where people are getting Pro was ever gonna get Argon right away when Google's messaging has been nothing but consistent with saying Ultra only and they haven't even alluded to letting us Pro users EVER play with it maybe a Argon Flash I dunno.
Thanks for the info I hadn't checked my self as of today so I will admit jumping to conclusions I will leave my post up as a matter of showing what rushing to wrong info looks like. Hope you have a good one. Up until today the messaging was definitely making it seem like a Ultra only perk.
It’s just Ultra first. Google always releases new things to Ultra first, not only because they pay more, but based on some sources apparently people in Ultra are also way more forgiving of bugs and issues when they first release.
Like somehow Pro/Plus and free subscribers complain way louder about any issues than the Ultra subscribers.
Its coming to pro in the app today, its just a slow release. I haven't got it yet, but others are reporting it's available. Sundar tweeted that its coming to Pro today as well.
worth knowing before you build on it: the 1M limit is unified input + output, not 1M in plus separate output. a long agent run eats its own context. theres a new continuation protocol in the docs for exactly that, read it before wiring argon into an agent
I was waiting for Google to release something like this so I can sub their Ultra plan to replace Codex or Claude Max since I need YT premium and other Google's stuffs in one bundle, but m still not sure if Argon can sustain long horizon task within the budget for 5 hours (Fable+Opus+Sonnet on Max can) and even if it worth it. I have no problem with AG, my last issue was the quota limit and obsolete frontier models available.
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u/sankalp_pateriya 18h ago
Paid, I remember when Gemini 2.5 Pro was free on AI Studio.