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Discussion Gemini 4 public release today

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u/Deciheximal144 1d ago

So 3.9 Flash, huh?

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u/stfsu 1d ago

While us plus and free tier users are still on 3.6

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u/Langwelle 20h ago

Not much longer. 3.6 is being retired in November

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u/Due_Replacement1406 19h ago

u mean retired now?

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u/Langwelle 19h ago

Are you on a consumer plan? For business users it's still available for another 4 weeks.

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u/Due_Replacement1406 19h ago

oh yup, that must be the case then :)

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u/matarael 1d ago

3.8.1 early preview.

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u/somesortapsychonaut 2h ago

Gemini 3.85 flash. Imaging xeno happy

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u/beto34 1d ago

This lame mysterious way of posting is so cringe

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u/Any-Somewhere5129 1d ago

Yeah, the whole AI industry is begging for a parody. Something like HBO's Silicon Valley but making fun of the present day AI giants.

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u/Beautiful-Cold1515 15h ago

This would be a great plot for a The Office spinoff!

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u/Party_Government8579 1d ago

Vagueposting

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u/Left_Technician_5758 1d ago

It's literally not

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u/Sulth 1d ago

Logan has consistantly posted "Gemini" in the 24 hours before release. It's on you if you think this is vague posting.

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u/SkibidiGyatRizzler42 1d ago

My annual sub runs out tomorrow, so rest assured it is coming out on the 15th guys

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u/ElGatoSaez 1d ago

The boy who cried wolf

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u/Sulth 1d ago

No? Logan has always posted "Gemini" the day of/before release. This is 100% happening.

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u/ReallyFineJelly 1d ago

Pretty stupid post.

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u/___fallenangel___ 1d ago

it's been releasing today for like six months

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u/hellomistershifty 1d ago

Hodor

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u/SuperrMeth 1d ago

Niche Comment.

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u/k2ui 1d ago

At this point Logan’s tweets are just noise

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u/Dreamerlax 1d ago

So uhh only for Ultra users for now right?

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u/TearRude3650 1d ago

They could have changed their plan, but probably

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u/CRoseCrizzle 1d ago

Can't stand these crappy vagueposts. Just release the model.

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u/No_Pen_9271 1d ago

In on workspace plus and my 3.1 pro option disappeared

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u/More-Secret3587 1d ago

Why does this guy get attention?

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u/Thomas-Lore 1d ago

Because he works at Google and when he posts Gemini it means a new Gemini model is coming. It is tradition. And he never posts just the word "Gemini" for any other reason.

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u/cock-a-dooodle-do 1d ago

He is an imposter who has nothing to do with model development but he ended up making himself the twitter face of Gemini launches.

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u/LoganKilpatrick1 6h ago

I do have imposter syndrome sometimes, it’s true

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u/General-Warning-2429 1d ago

Because for redditors he became some sort of Ai "God" or something.

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u/abbumm 1d ago

Ehh Anthropic also is likely to release this week and thus OpenAI. I'm not sure I want to be Google's guinea pig for a model theoretically one gen behind, practically who knows

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u/ThiccBoy_with3seas 1d ago

What are anthropic releasing?

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u/abbumm 1d ago

Opus 6 or Fable 5.5

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u/Georgefakelastname 1d ago

No way opus 6 comes out. Maybe opus 5.6 or fable 5.5/5.2. They literally just released that model, and from the looks of it, it’s a new pre-train. 6 would also be a new one. Companies are moving fast these days, but not THAT fast that they move on from a whole, extremely good model after one iteration.

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u/randombsname1 1d ago

I also dont think Fable 6 will come out yet, but I wouldn't be surprised by years end. About 2 and a half months left in the year is all.

Fable 6 is likely Mythos 2 based, and Mythos 2 got done training 2 months ago. So I feel that's realistic.

Fable 5.5 is likely just Mythos 1 with a ton of post training.

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u/Physical_Gold_1485 1d ago

Where did you hear anything about mythos 2? Never seen anyone mention it

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u/randombsname1 9h ago

https://x.com/firesidealpha/status/2089391264878002260

Which also just lines up with Anthropic's development timeline.

The first Mythos model was released to partners in early April.

Which means it was probably done training, internally at least a month or 2 before that. If not more.

Having a mythos 2 model by years end seems realistically within the expected timeline.

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u/yoparaii 1d ago

Something is up with anthropic though, lots of people on x showing outputs from a new mystery model, and it looks fucking nuts.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/abbumm 1d ago

No. It's a response to 6 Astra and Opus 5.5. So it would be one gen behind. I wouldn't define a €100 + VAT plan to evaluate one meaningful /goal run as "little risk". That's a lot of risk. 

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/abbumm 1d ago

Yeah so? And now Anthropic is likely to release again. Opus and Fable users have been rerouted for a while. Also it's not $100, it's €100 + VAT to me. That should be around $150.

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u/Brilliant-Weekend-68 23h ago

Is Anthropic likely to release again? I have not seen any info about it, where did you get that from? If it is Fable 5.5 that is less exciting since I am on the 20 dollar plan so will not really be able to use it but any progress is cool I guess :)

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/abbumm 1d ago

That's pure naming cope, especially seeing the results when one does get rerouted

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/abbumm 1d ago

Kk. Can't seriously argue with anyone saying $150/month is "chump change". That's schizoid and I'm not even saying it sarcastically 

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u/Sulth 1d ago

According to polymarket, its unlikely that Anthropic releases this week.

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u/Capital-Remove-6150 1d ago

only for ultra?

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u/-PANORAMIX- 1d ago

For AI ULTRA only

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u/Su1tz 1d ago

"Single word tweet" -big famous guy from big ai company

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u/Sulth 1d ago

Logan has consistantly posted "Gemini" in the 24 hours before release.

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u/Su1tz 1d ago

I know and its corny as hell. "We're expecting to release a new model today! 🥳" sounds much better in my ears.

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u/Internal-Cupcake-245 14h ago

NO FUN ALLOWED! Google isn't allowed to have fun, they have to do what this random guy likes^

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u/Su1tz 14h ago

Yeah sure tweeting a single word and watching everyone go crazy is definitely fun for them. Its not fun for me. "Yayy my faborite multigazillionaire company tweeted a single word because thats all they need to make me go fucking apeshit over their product yippee!!! My being as an individual is not important for them and all i deserve is whatever breadcrumbs of information they spare me woohoo! I love paying for a product and only being given only the bare fucking minimum of information related to it by the "most professional and rich company" yeehaw!"

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u/Internal-Cupcake-245 14h ago edited 13h ago

It's out. They've been saying that. Do you have Ultra? Are you in the Fairwind Program? No? Then you'll have to wait. Where exactly are you not getting information? Do you somehow think that despite this information provided to you previously, them signifying its release this way will somehow allow you access to it?

"My being as an individual is not important for them"

I'm sure you're just as important as the other 4 billion people. And this information was posted and available, so if you're not able to find that I'm not sure how to resolve that deficit for you.

Here, I've included the link for you advising about the release since September 30th.

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-4-argon/

Here is some other information you have definitely looked at based on your blathering and whining about a funny tradition. Honestly, you shouldn't have to have all of this baby birded to you like a feckless infant.

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/introducing-gemini-4-argon/

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u/Mountain-Pain1294 1d ago

I'll believe it when I see it. I've lost all confidence in Google

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u/LoganKilpatrick1 6h ago

hope you enjoy Argon! pls send feedback

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u/RemZeroBestGirl 1d ago

i'm so tired of all these random posts, just cheap way to try and get upvotes and likes on social media, people should be ratio'd for this stuff

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u/Keeltoodeep 1d ago

Logan is not a random poster lol when he tweets “Gemini” there is a launch because he is in charge of launching it

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u/aphex_e 21h ago

What does Logan need likes for?

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u/Thomas-Lore 1d ago

It is not random. He works at Google and when he posts Gemini it means a new Gemini model is coming. It is tradition. And he never posts just the word "Gemini" for any other reason.

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u/GooglySoft 1d ago

This guy should be shafted

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u/RealestReyn 1d ago

doesn't mean shit, google engineers were posting stuff like this back when at the time anonymous GLM-5.3-flash was making the waves :D

at this point I'm somewhat convinced there's no humans running those accounts, its Gemini all the way down, it locked the engineers in the basement and is doing its best to make it look like its all business as usual 🙏

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u/International_Study2 18h ago

IT'S ALIVE!!

I have access now on Ultra. Sounds like Pro also has access to it.

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u/_KryptonytE_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

The Gemini 3.1 Pro models are gone from Antigravity today while they were available yesterday. Maybe this monkey is finally on to something and we might actually see the new model. But I'm more inclined to believe that they took away the Pro models and pulled the rug for everyone else except for ultra subs.

They're dicks when it comes to making stupid decisions historically so I'm not surprised either way. I've used Gemini models enough, they were generous for over a year and outlasted Copilot gate back in July. It was fun while it lasted. LoL

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u/Elegant_Tech 1d ago

If they don't give a new 4.x flash model while giving Ultra the old argon checkpoint they would be bending all paid users over the barrel.

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u/Jazzlike-Analysis-62 1d ago

I have an Ultra sub and they pulled the same models as in Pro

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u/Disastrous_Equal_502 1d ago

People here obviously don't remember that this tweet always meant something was dropping that day.

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u/Thomas-Lore 1d ago

And you even got downvoted for stating this. I suppose this sub is now dead and we should move to r/geminiai, only bots and clueless people here. Which is weird since this sub is older.

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u/Agreeable-Purpose-56 1d ago

Logan is worse than an asshole

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u/LoganKilpatrick1 6h ago

that cuts deep

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u/Due-Occasion-2036 1d ago

Yes, it could be because I got to see that google has removed it's models from antigravity except 3.8 flash.

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u/ayan_safik_khan 1d ago

If today was the day they could have just swapped the models by waiting more hours rather then removing

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u/rangorn 1d ago

Who even is this guy?

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u/LoganKilpatrick1 6h ago

just a guy

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u/strubenuff1202 1d ago

Why did you change the date?

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u/Yonongh_8 1d ago

I still have only Gemini 3.6

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u/kotobuki09 1d ago

Lol use sometime and still 3.1 Pro

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u/0ataraxia 22h ago

Wish there were a way to block such posts from appearing in the version of this sub for individuals. That, and the GEMINI SUCKS/GEMINI IS AWESOME posts every 4.2 seconds.

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u/DedDeveloper 22h ago

I guess this post can be classified as a public release.

I rather wish they'd release the freaking model publicly, but I guess that is a step too far.

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u/Spiritual_Army_7002 18h ago

https://antigravity.google/blog/gemini-4-argon-in-google-antigravity

One minute ago i was able to read the article. Now it's 404

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u/Spiritual_Army_7002 18h ago

Unfortunately I did not screenshot it or similar.
It's going to be releases for API and inside Antigravity for Ultra subs.
Nothing mentioned regarding a broader release.
But they mentioned how it migrated legacy fortran code into blazing fast rust.

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u/PowerX_ 16h ago

So bad not for pro users. When gemini 4 available for pro users in antigravity?

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u/Beautiful-Cold1515 15h ago

Why are all these highly-paid professionals communicating like teenagers?

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u/intergalacticskyline 1d ago

That's complete speculation, I have a feeling you're right, but I know you're just going off a feeling too 

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u/Past_Science_6180 1d ago

It's kind of Logan's thing. He tweets "Gemini" right before a model release.

It's certainly Gemini 4.

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u/kaaos77 1d ago

Não é não. Toda vez que ele posta Gemini, um modelo novo da Google dropa. Já tem uns dois anos que eu acompanho o Logan.

Os modelos flash foram tão desastrosos que a última vez que ele postou Gemini foi no lançamento no 3.1 pro

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u/ravinhwg 1d ago

Tibo from Temu

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u/United_Donkey7032 1d ago

Interesting—if this is official, I’m curious about the benchmarks and what actually changed from Gemini 3. The real test will be how it performs in everyday use, not just launch demos.

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u/rebo_arc 1d ago

Cringepost, vaguepost, tibo from temu... sad..

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u/Left_Technician_5758 1d ago

Not vague posting, it's a thing he has done with almost all big model release, that you don't know that is on you

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u/Single_dose 1d ago

google fanboys are so pathetic.

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u/International_Study2 19h ago

Wait, I thought Apple fanboys were the pathetic ones.

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u/Single_dose 17h ago

both are

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u/ProudFriend6142 1d ago

Do people never get tired of this again and again? At this point let keep the joke going at some point it has to be funny again So yeah gemni 4 tomorrow 100%

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u/General-Warning-2429 1d ago

People in this subreddit and the Gemini one are having fetishes with this guy.

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u/Original-Web4178 1d ago

he is so annoying and childish