r/AbsoluteUnits • • 1d ago

of a bolt turned on a lathe

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Credit to metal_mind_202

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u/Kiiaru 1d ago

If castle nut, why no hole in bolt for cotter pin?

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u/Useful-Arm6913 18h ago

I don't know if the other commenters are ignorant or are being facetious.. but the reason is because they'd probably be doing that operation on the mill, not on the lathe.

For anyone else, youd definitely be alright with making the hole in the bolt "before tightening it", as that's how castle nuts work. Typically you tighten to spec, and then continue to tighten until the next slot is indexed correctly.

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u/PA2SK 1d ago

You drill a hole after the nut is tightened, otherwise you would have no idea where it goes.

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u/Ceskaz 1d ago

Because you need to know to what it will be fastened before ?

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u/Cliffinati 17h ago

I think it's just there to check threads

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u/KempVelde 1d ago

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u/dogface47 21h ago

I once had an argument with a so called safety director after he tried to tell me I had to wear gloves while working on a lathe. I told him I absolutely refuse. He threatened to write me up. I told him to go right ahead and then I'll go over his head and probably get him fired for insisting I do something unsafe. Needless to say he wasn't around for long ..

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 15h ago

As a safety director myself, I've found tons of success in my career from assuming everyone who's doing a trade knows more about it than me.

So I ask: "hey, are gloves required for that job?"

And a machinist would go, "fuck no, I don't wanna get degloved."

And I'd respond, "makes sense, thanks for knowing that; need anything from me? No? Aight, have a good day."

Someone who's been doing the job for 40 years knows what's going to get them hurt and what isn't. Some things are hard-and-fast OSHA rules, and some really are "listen to the guy who's worked that machine since your parents were in high school."

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u/Monksdrunk 7h ago edited 7h ago

"and they reply, have you seen the Russian lathe guy video?" to which i reply GOT DAYUMM!!

side note. how the hell do you create thread pitch on a lathe? i genuinely know most of how they work and have scarcely used one. i know its usually threads per inch or MM but how do you set a tool to carve?

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u/PralineApprehensive5 7h ago

There are different "gear" combinations that will determine the distance the tool travels (feed) vs the number of times the workpiece rotates (speed). With the right ratio, you cut a spiral thread instead of shaving the entire surface. Hopefully an actual machinist can give you a little more detailed explanation.

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u/_VirtualCosmos_ 21h ago

His sleeves are not loose but yeah... everyone using a lathe should be traumatized with that video for their own good...

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u/Subotail 20h ago

The russian red mist video?

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u/baboonassassin 19h ago

That's the worst safety mishap video I ever saw

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u/OWERTY_ 14h ago

That seems to be a flannel shirt, it'll just rip if it gets caught in the lathe.

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u/Creepy_Wallaby2170 13h ago

While true is that really a risk you want to take?

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u/OWERTY_ 13h ago

As it protects me from the razor like chips from a lathe, yes

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u/seimalau 1d ago

How does making the threads work. How tf do you measure the gaps between each rotation

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u/Pacura24 1d ago

You can lock the spindle and the carriage together, so every rotation the longitudional travel will be the same. You set the pitch on the machine with gears and ready to go. (i dönt know the correct english terms)

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u/U03A6 19h ago

Very subtle way to drop your native language!

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u/thatAnthrax 15h ago

alec steele taught me this in his powerhammer restoration video

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u/Gumb1i 1d ago

Locking the spindle rotation to the tool feed via worm gearing.

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u/ottergoose 20h ago

To simplify further - it’s a setting on the lathe - you tell it the pitch, and it moves the appropriate bits in sync automatically.

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u/seimalau 2h ago

It's amazing how we've made tools to make such things

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u/gerjan30 1d ago

Math. If you know how fast it spins and how fast it moves diagonally you can calculate the gap you're making.

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u/Looptydude 12h ago

You can lock the rotation of the spindle and chuck)the thing holding the bolt, to the lead screw that moves the tool cutting the metal. There is basically a transmission that you can change the gears on to change the rate at which the lead screw moves in relation to the spindle's speed.

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u/usernamedottxt 3h ago

Wait until you learn how hard drives work by spinning magnetic plates at up to 10,000 rotations a minute and use a tiny magnetic needle head to write clockwise circles indicating the value “on” and we manage to store terabytes of information on a couple 3 inch platters that way. 

And we invented that over 50 years ago. 

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u/seimalau 2h ago

That's like burning CDs right? I think that's really neat how we've progressed from making wax records to capture sound all the way to using light and magnets to store information.

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u/SpunNumeroUno 1d ago

Lathes make some amazing shit. Maybe one day I'll have one of my own.

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u/joalheagney 21h ago

I'm not sure if I should do this. Ah screw it. You heard of the Gingery books?

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u/SpunNumeroUno 21h ago

These?

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u/rust-e-apples1 19h ago

Since they're metalworkers, I'm sure they're pretty precise/safe, but "building a metal shop from scrap" sounds ghetto AF. Like "for the first step, you're gonna need to harvest about a dozen carburators."

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u/joalheagney 13h ago

It's actually mostly casting from recovered aluminium (Not cans. Apparently not very good casting alloy). The bloke who wrote it back-engineered the history of powered metalworking tools and effectively wrote a speedrun on "hand tools to milling machine".

The fascinating stuff is how he came up with ways to "steal precision" at several steps. Giving up precision in one unimportant area to get more precision in a key dimension.

Like boring out the axis for the lathe head stock. You want it to be aligned to the lathe bed as accurately as possible. Even quarter a degree misalignment is going to be an issue.

So what you do is set up a temporary axis that is going to absolutely be misaligned. Then you mount your lathe head backwards (where the tail stock would go) and push the head onto the temporary boring rig. Your lathe axis is going to end up with a slightly elliptical hole, but it will be aligned.

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u/joalheagney 13h ago

That's the ones. All you need is several years worth of free time, an area you can run a casting furnace in, and a shit-ton of scrap aluminium. :P

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u/Mac_Aravan 1h ago

Pretty easy to find, but once you buy it comes the "how I am going to move this 1T piece of iron?"

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u/jimmymui06 1d ago

The process of making thw hexagon planes always make me feel weird

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u/crasagam 20h ago edited 17h ago

Cool. We only need 29999 more to complete the bridge.

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u/CRXCRZ 15h ago

Wow. Was totally expecting a mill operation for the head. Is it safe to use a 3 jaw that way?

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 12h ago

It couldn't fly out, locked in by the T shape. I do weird stuff in 4 jaws, ive made 3 jaws hold square parts, but ive never seen anyone do this before. Over 25 years of being a machinist and still learning!

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u/DistributionMean6322 3h ago

I'm not a machinist but that doesn't look like a normal or particularly safe way to cut those flats.

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u/rarlei 21h ago

Dude is probably hammering nails to the wall with his lathe too

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u/azionka 1d ago

I’m honestly shocked by the way he handles his tools. This is some seriously shoddy workmanship.

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u/edapblix 1d ago

I know next to nothing about this, what are some bad practices seen in the video?

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u/azionka 22h ago

He uses the grooving tool for marking out and facing.
The feed rate is too high, he is producing a continuous chip. Also, you can see the Chip is too hot since he doesn’t use cooling.

He is just barbaric towards his tools. (Sorry for my bad English, but I had to use a translator for the technical terms)

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u/ItsNotThatBad72 22h ago

There's nothing wrong with scribing with the cutting tool an long as he doesn't chip it. Not an issue if it's HSS

The video is sped up.

A hot chip on a manual lathe is good because it means the heat is going into the chip instead of the part.

Yeah, he needs a chip breaker.

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 12h ago

Using that groover to chamfer by using the F$*(<ing side of it!! That alone makes me want to bitch slap him

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u/flyingviaBFR 12h ago

He also measured the first cut with a ruler...

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u/Programmer_Worldly 1d ago

The head profile is made in a weird way. Milling would be safer. But it's fine overall.

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u/ItsNotThatBad72 22h ago

The original post mentions being on a ship with only a lathe.

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u/SirDigbyChknCaesar 18h ago

The ship that only has a mill must be back at port.

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u/ItsNotThatBad72 17h ago

They absolutely exists.

I've actually put small parts in the spindle of a mill and a turning tool in the vice when a lathe wasn't available.

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u/marionez 23h ago

Mom, can I have this machine for Christmas please?

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u/Altruistic_Lies 23h ago

Watching this whilst roughing some billets out on the lathe at work, inception type shit. I wouldn't have all that material down the spindle, the chuck won't like it

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u/AssistTraditional480 1d ago

I need a cigarette

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 12h ago

I do this every day. Its not bad, the machine does most of the work. Custom fab/repair shop, 90% of the time i make single parts, 8% its a 2 part job. Ive done mass production, I hated it.

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 11h ago

Thats tiny but no issue with the right tools. I made this for a hydraulic valve a few weeks ago

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 11h ago

Thanks. Custom machining is always expensive. Sometimes we don't have the tools and the customer buys it for use unknowingly, its added to your cost and we keep the tool. Sometimes its best to find something off the shelf that you can modify. Like you buy longer bolts and cut them down, or design your thing around commonly available parts. I know those aren't always possible, I don't know exactly what you need.

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 11h ago

Unless this is your project and you make the profit id just shop around. Buying a machine, tooling and learning it will be a long expensive journey process

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 11h ago

I mostly make medium sized stuff, this is my "big". Its about 6 feet long, was 6 inch dia and about 500 lbs. Shaft for custom paper mixing machine

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u/Handyr 21h ago

The threads seem very shallow. Is this a thing?

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u/88KURIOUS 14h ago

As a pure end user, of nothing approaching that size, I’m just gonna note that was interesting. Thx! ☺️

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u/darthtidiot 12h ago

A freaking tape measure!?

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u/TheJ-Files 12h ago

I wish someone would do the same type of video but place a clock in the background. That way you get an idea of the time spent to do that.

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u/Feeling-Line-428 12h ago

And that's how your ex's dildo was made

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u/No-Eye-629 8h ago

Weird that it isn't fully automated

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u/Superb_Investment206 2h ago

Why it should be? If you need only one

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u/No-Eye-629 1h ago

Because it's not just one bolt.

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u/Superb_Investment206 47m ago

In the video it is

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u/Tallowpot 6h ago

How does the chuck not fuck up the thread?

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u/Drfoxthefurry 16m ago

Thick enough threads, and it's not like it's on a single point from what I can see

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u/Herr_Boppes 23h ago

That´s not even close to an AbsoluteUnit of a bolt.

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 12h ago

I made this big boy a few weeks ago!

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 12h ago

You might appreciate my drill bit and custom extension, had to drill a deep hole in my lathe!

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u/Ok_Resource_7108 23h ago

Forbidden circumcision.

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u/Lylidotir 1d ago

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u/2Wieners_1Bun 1d ago

You often fantasize about lathing your penis? Intriguing

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u/Charming-Muffin-7965 1d ago

That's a wild assumption

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u/2Wieners_1Bun 1d ago

Do you have a weird form of dyslexia that makes you incapable of understanding memes?

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u/Lylidotir 1d ago

Certainly would help your size...

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u/2Wieners_1Bun 1d ago

Lathes remove material, and also it would tear your penis clean off

Thank you for attending my workplace safety seminar.

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u/Lylidotir 1d ago

Believe me...i saw what they do and can do... And I ain't going near such a thing for any money in the world.

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u/CA_Orange 15h ago

Hmmm...my first thought is that one video when I see "lathe."

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u/thatAnthrax 15h ago

its the skinned guy huh