Andrade and Pac had a pretty wild little rivalry going between Andrades AEW runs. They had 2 bangers in 2021 and wrapped it up 2-1 at All Out. Andrade even posted about it before the news broke.
One of the most spectacular wrestling moves I've ever seen. It was pure joy to watch him pull it off, I'm fucking crushed that he can't do it anymore. We're gonna miss the hell out of our Bastard
I hope that Ospreay or Ricochet adopts the move, use it sparingly, and it's just as deadly as ever. These two are the only ones I can fathom being able to perform the move.
Unfortunately, Will recently said that he can now longer do the shooting star press because of his neck, I would imagine that as the first rotation in the black arrow is really similar to that move he wouldn't be able to safely pull it off
Once upon a time, before the Black Arrow was even called the Red Arrow, it was just plainly called a Corkscrew Shooting Star Press so you're exactly right
I was just thinking that. It's unfair to speculate especially since it's not our move to give out, but it would be sick if some form of continuity like that happened. I think it would be touching if Ace was the last to take it and now he uses it, but this is just fantasy booking atp and I'd rather the most respectful thing happen, regardless of the outcome.
I'm just hurting, man. I loved seeing PAC and I miss him
Only one that really springs to mind for me is Ricochet and maybe Matt Sydal.
The level of aerial control and core strength is utterly off the charts. Even someone like Ospreay I wouldn’t be 100% confident in pulling it off - Ospreay is fantastic, but a lot of his execution is speed and momentum, whereas the Black Arrow is centred about pure body control. Genuinely not sure if we ever see it again tbh.
Komander probably could do it as well, dude has really good control of his body and does a few top rope moves that I wouldn’t think most people could do safely
Yeah, I've not really seen enough of Komander to be sure - obviously I've seen his AEW stuff, but I feel like his thing tends to be less pure 'rotation' and more just incredible balance and smoothness. I know PAC's gimmick was 'the man that gravity forgot', but man, you could make one hell of an argument for that applying to Komander as well.
i also fully expect to get a banger of a sydal match tomorrow or saturday — him and pac were tight, one of pacs og friends (think ricochet/dragon gate dojo)
love matt .. love pac .. man this ain’t getting easier
rest in peace and thanks for mentioning sydal ❤️🔥
Some Wrestling moves are difficult and technical that take years to master and longer to do safely consistently and then there's the black arrow thats in a completely different category.
What's surprised me in this last day is I can't think of a time he didn't hit it flush. The dude never missed. He also didn't hit it every match and come to think of it, the move may have been more protected than the 1 winged angel when Pac was doing it.
It's so wild and cruel that such an amazing athlete, and seemingly person, can just keel over in a parking lot 24hrs after such an amazing performance. There's still a part of my brain where it hasn't clicked yet that I'll never get to see this man wrestle again. It just feels impossible. Truly heartbreaking, my eyes are watering right now just thinking about it.
Not often you can say this and mean it, but that move was pure poetry in motion. I can watch it all day and not work out how he managed to do that. God, what a wrestler he was.
No matter how many times I have seen him do it I still can’t believe he can do it, just such a gorgeous jaw dropping move for anyone never mind someone built like him, solid! I am so thankful AEW got me back into wrestling after being out of it for almost 20 years, so thankful I got to witness him wrestle live. PAC vs OC at Revolution and Pac vs OC vs Kenny are two of my fav matches ever. RIP legend
The first and only time I saw PAC was also at the final live WWE show I went to. Witnessing the Black/Red arrow in person was the best part of that show.
Same here. I'm incredibly grateful that I've gotten to see him wrestle a fantastic match with Sami Zayn and see him hit his finisher. An absolute thing of beauty. RIP
I dont usually watch all the way until the end of 3 hour Dynamite/Collison show.. but for some reason, I did this past week & Im grateful I did. PAC stood out. He didn't have to do much this match but it was perfect and so was his Black Arrow. God Speed Benjamin.
Even in slowmo, I still can’t understand how he could do it. A brilliant move from an incredible athlete, and now, tragically, a move that will never have been kicked out of.
I can't remember who it was, but I saw someone on YouTube the other day talking about it 'possibly' being the best high flying move of all time and compared to the Swanton Bomb and the Five Star Frog Splash.
Like, if they're the moves we're comparing it to, the Black Arrow is easily the best high flying move of all time. Very few wrestlers are ever going to consistently replicate it, but I can guarantee I'll see someone attempting the Fiver Star Frog Splash or a Swanton Bomb in the future.
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u/RickHard0 13d ago
For all the other people that are going through with this sudden departure I would also like to add Ace and Andrade.
Even if you don't have any connections It must make you feel something weird knowing that your someone's last victory and last match