Ukraine Struck Yandex Data Centers, Russian Bots Went Silent—Now Questions Are Mounting

[u/ArgentineBeauty]

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/ukraine-struck-yandex-data-centers-russian-bots-went-silent-now-questions-are-mounting-23339

[u/roamingandy]

I've noticed in the past that they often actually do, if you get to a big unexpected story early. Sometimes the agents haven't been given a coordinated new narrative to push yet, so there's a brief window of disagreement with the Orange Turd and his admin, until a narrative is worked out which instantly flies to the top and descenting voices are downvoted.

Judging by what appear to be the actual users on Reddit, these are poorly educated people, but they do have their own thoughts. They've just been trained to accept that they must have been wrong, once the 'movement' tells them what they should believe.

I mention this because if those voices were deplatformed, i think a lot of people would fairly quickly start to notice and talk about some of the awful shit going on around them, and be listened to by others in those circles, since they haven't been told how to shut that specific discussion down.. they might even remember old stories they were told were too big not to vote for Trump, who would blow them wide open on day 1.. like the Epstein Files, 'No more wars!, 'Biden did this' to gas prices, etc, etc.

[u/MaritMonkey → u/roamingandy]

descenting voices are downvoted.

They're not just downvoted, they're often entirely removed by moderation(/admin? Idk).

Those "open discussion" threads are actually way more interesting than what's left of the discussions after the "everything is red v blue" comb sweeps over them but I got bored of making new accounts to participate. :)

[u/Mr_Quackums → u/roamingandy]

Just a reminder - conservatism is NOT a rational, coherent belief system and therefor would not organically attract large numbers of people. Conservatism must be held together by constant reinforcement of fear, FOMO, and out-group demonization.

[u/Dubious_Odor → u/roamingandy]

Based on family members of mine that are maga as well as some friends who have maga family, reddit is not high on the list of social media/media. Maga skews older, facebook still regins supreme as their social media of choice followed by youtube. Huge numbers also still watch fox news. Reddit doednt really set the agenda, just a mouthpiece supporting narratives that originate elsewhere. Podcasters and talk radio is where maga narratives are workshopped before wider dissemination.

[u/UpperApe → u/roamingandy]

...you don't understand conservatives.

Conservatives aren't brainwashed sheep, filled with love and kindness but only waylaid by some sinister force exploiting their benevolent ignorances.

They are society's worst and these forces are just the excuse they're looking for. If they don't find it here, they'll find it on the radio. If they don't find it on the radio, they'll find it in church. If they don't find it in church, they'll find it in secret meetings with hoods and crosses.

Conservatism is fundamentally about social hierarchies and amoralism. It's why conservatives have always been on the wrong side. Literally always. ALWAYS. Every country, every era, every movement. Against civil rights, women's rights, gay right, trans rights, worker's rights, marital rape laws, age of consent laws, access to education, access to healthcare, vaccination standards, etc.

"Fiscal responsibility" is just a mask for cutting social spending. "Law and order" is just a mask for circumventing accountability and regulation to fast track consequences they want to see. "Strong borders" is just a mask for blatant racism and closing the middle class. "Traditionalism" is just a mask to stand against science and progress and enlightenment and equality for the sake of social patterns that kept violent and exploitive structures that benefit the few.

Again: every country, every era, every movement. Conservatives are ALWAYS the monsters. Always.

There's good people and there's "nice" people. The latter don't have principles. They want civility and choices. The former have principles. They don't have choice because their principles have made their choice for them; they are required to follow through. They aren't civil, they're disruptive. And their choices ALWAYS lead to sacrifice. Something that all conservatives are vehemently opposed to.

Just because you're nice doesn't mean you're good. And nice is often used to circumvent good. You're confusing nice conservatives with good people. They are not good people.

They are the shittiest and stupidest people in the room, house, town, city, and country. Conservatism gives them the political banner they can rally under. That is the whole point. From Burke to Trump.

I think what you want to reach are the imbeciles. You are mistaken if you think they will suddenly discover empathy, transform, and become valuable members of society. They're just going to wait for the bots to come back online. Even if takes months.

You are waiting for shitty people to discover they're shit. They won't