Charitable is an extremely kind, maybe naive way, to understand the self interest inherent in fascist politics. It doesn't just turn off.
When she starts saying things like "Trans rights are human rights" and "Every single person deserves a fair go", you know, fundamental values that would explain why someone would reject Trump, then let's talk.
But she's getting there. If you don't offer a road to recovery people just dig their heels in more. She honestly believed the bullshit being peddled. That was very apparent from the get go.
Are you taking the piss? Here's the fucking road to recovery,
There's a thousand bills gonna be put forward this year alone across your country seeking to harm trans people.
And she's one of the main parts of that and has not changed her mind. Not being a part of hate politics is not too much to fucking ask mate.
And if you think I'm going to compromise on that VERY basic fucking rule, then you're either a fucking bot, or have misjudged what is and isn't acceptable so fucking badly, that you've accidentally decided to be half fascist.
Don't worry about her getting there, you worry about your own road to recovery.
"Be nice to the fascist bitch or the fascists win" is one of the the most pathetic, manipulative, bullshit, lukewarm quisling attitudes that I have ever fucking read. And I strongly suggest, you wrack your brain, as to why you've adsorbed such ridiculous rhetoric.
Dude, I didn't say she was there yet, I said she is getting there. Recognizing that, unlike Trump, she has some internal moral code and is starting to be on the same page as us is not the same as endorsing her or sharing her views. Nor is it telling you to be nice to her for the things she does do wrong. But recognizing when they are doing something right, and encouraging them to continue doing right offers them a path forward.
If you leave someone with only burnt bridges, then the only path left for them is the one they're already on. And at that point, they start digging in like Trump has. She's not gone so far as to become beyond redemption and I hope she continues to wake up from her cult.
We're not on different pages about trans rights. No one is saying don't hold her accountable for pushing that.
Edit: Display a mild difference of opinion, get blocked on reddit. :P
We are definitely on different pages quisling. Trust me, I'm not on your page.
The idea to blame me and others, for fascists hate politics, is as unacceptable as it is ridiculous. And a complete disregard, for basic responsibility.
Clearly, a lot of people have some waking up to do, from your American cult.
Edit: Gets called quisling "It's so mild". This person is not real. I want to re-underline how far away I am from what they're pushing.
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u/Mike_Kermin 22d ago
Charitable is an extremely kind, maybe naive way, to understand the self interest inherent in fascist politics. It doesn't just turn off.
When she starts saying things like "Trans rights are human rights" and "Every single person deserves a fair go", you know, fundamental values that would explain why someone would reject Trump, then let's talk.
But I don't think she's there.