Because often times when there's a truly terrible bill up for a vote, there will always be some Democrats that will split with their party to pass it. It's always Democrats who aren't up for election for several years (if it's the Senate) or not running for re-election. This isn't some occasional phenomenon either. It's always just enough Dems to get the orphan crushing bill passed and it happens every single time. That speaks to a coordinated effort where the Republicans get their way and the Democrats seemingly are all talk and no bite.
You can go back through the congressional voting record on every bill and see this pattern. It's because both parties have the same donors.
itsdainti used hyperbolic language that is not supported by the record. Additionally, there is a strong selection bias here, since competent leadership doesn't bring up a bill if they don't have the votes for it.
See, e.g., the "SAVE" act. Terrible bill, but not brought to the floor because Republicans would loose that vote and they know it. And so, this is a very clear and very recent event where "it happens every single time" by itsdainti is wrong, but I guess for them it doesn't count.
Well, tell me something they have done to stand up to the lawlessness and madness from this administration. From where I sit I don't really see anything.
So the don't have the house or Senate. They can't stop legislation, nor can the do much to push their agenda. In the legislative sense.
Where are all the grassroots movements ? Where's all the organizing, where's the collective push back? You've had a no kings protest and a lot of badass fucking champions standing up to ice in Minn.
That shit should have caught fire. But it didn't. It fizzled out.
With the level of crazy right now I am absolutely gobsmacked that people aren't in the streets and taking the fight to those in power. I see a lot of apathy, . . . No spines.
And I feel like today's democratic party has a BIG role to play in standing up to what the current administration is doing. They're failing.
So the people who didn't do the horrible things are the ones responsible?
The Republicans literally control all three branches of government, with a Supreme Court is mostly made of people who care less about the Constitution than their political/religious ideologies but the question is "what have Democrats done to stop them?"
From what I see, they are doing what they can given this reality - trying to point out the dishonesty and hypocrisy of these people in congressional hearings.
What other things do you feel they should be doing?
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u/Responsible_Rule8829 24d ago
Yeah, great idea, start a movement amongst democratic supporters to have them step down. Be loud. Be visible. Come together and make it happen.
The old guard is also responsible for the state of affairs today.
Make sure they know that and that they're not wanted anymore.