r/MarriedAtFirstSight • u/AirShampoo #TheRandallWay • Aug 27 '26
Current Episode Discussion S20:E20 Season 20 Reunion
All seven couples reunite to reflect on their journeys, confront unfinished business and reveal who's still together and who's not.
Week 7 Megathread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/SQPB7Ebmr0
Season Megathread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/P1lDAPCh8S
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u/bobaaficionado Aug 30 '26
Courtney need a reality check. Her rudeness was so blatant. Nick is frustrating but her disregard shut him down. I wonder how is she like with her new boyfriend.
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u/Jazzlike-Promise-153 Aug 30 '26
The hosts suck omg. Production was absolutely diabolical for panning to the reaction of the audience when they saw Adam‘s new girlfriend💀💀💀 like she does not compared to Marissa at all I’m sorry. I hate how Courtney cannot admit even once that she wasn’t rude. There’s no hope for her.
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
Come in Nikki, just tell us you didn’t know it was your husband at the alter cause you thought it was pastor Cal 😂.
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
Oh no! Michelle’s health problems were worse than I thought. She had to have a hysterectomy!!!!
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u/Eric33co 3d ago
I thought it was so inappropriate that they asked about that on the show. It’s such a difficult matter to discuss and I found it cruel and unnecessary
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
I get why Adam went so hard on her. Not that it’s ok but he felt she disrespected his friend and didn’t deserve respect back. So he bashed her where he feels is must important…..her pickle ball skills!!!
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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 Aug 30 '26
these bitchass experts
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u/matchadelite01 24d ago
The lady was always useless. But I was very disappointed in Paul because he just sat and listened the whole time.
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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 Aug 30 '26
the pan to Adam's new girlfriend and the silence.......................
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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 Aug 30 '26
ohhhh i see this girl is crazy too they might be perfect for each other
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u/Hepadna Aug 30 '26
Yes she’s absolutely insane and delusional which is why they’ll be great together.
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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 Aug 30 '26
all of the cast should have gotten on that stage and cussed the experts clean out
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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 Aug 29 '26
it is crazy that 2 of the good men were matched with shitty women
and the decent women ended up with shitty men. how tf did that work
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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 Aug 29 '26
Mecca is a child
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
So nice to see Bell finally stand up for herself.
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u/Sad_Young_6615 Aug 31 '26
Yes! So happy she and Marissa saw what they looked like and came to the reunion ready to speak up
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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 Aug 29 '26
Shawn is a terrible person
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u/DeyfennSlayd Aug 29 '26
Someone needs to tell Courtney that Alphas don't go around telling everyone their an Alpha 😁 it's such an anti-alpha behavior. She's not intimidating, she's simply aggressive and an a-hole.
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u/user9998887775 Aug 29 '26
Adam is straight up the worst person on the show. Like a legit bad person. He is an immature crybaby and he’s also manipulative and angry. Fuck him honestly. Shawn I would say is just as bad, except I do feel slightly bad for Shawn bc you know he is super insecure about his height and his looks and he was also probably bullied a lot when he was younger. But that doesn’t excuse him being a shitty person. Yes Courtney and Kaitlyn both sucked but they weren’t as bad as Adam and Shawn. And Mecca. And Felipe. Lmao
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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 Aug 29 '26
I think Courtney crying when Adam said he’d leave her after a week is because she really likes him and wanted to be with him. (curious if thats whats going on)
When the experts said they contemplated matching her with Adam - she might’ve just been excited because she was thinking that too and was excited that someone else could see that pairing. And then when they asked Adam if that matching wouldve been good for him and he IMMEDIATELY shut it down in a VERY strong way - she mightve just been heartbroken
Adam said they were 11-2 in 1:1 pickleball so they definitely have hung out outside of the show together. Wonder if it was Courtney asking him to hang/play and she hoped it would turn into something
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u/irishmermaid1 Sep 06 '26
I said the exact same thing when watching this - she definitely had a crush.
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u/fenchurch_42 Aug 30 '26
She 100% was into him and hoping that they would get together after the show. The way he read her was devastating.
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
You’re probably right. She might of had a crush and was devastated he trashed her so quickly.
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u/Holychance_3 Aug 29 '26
Caitlin got off way to easy
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u/Intrepid-Caregiver-6 Aug 29 '26
AND COURTNEY!!!
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u/Maranda1979 Aug 31 '26
Both those girls should really have done some SERIOUS therapy before dating again.
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u/Holychance_3 Aug 29 '26
Paul staying quiet and Dr. Lisa deflecting to the group when Nikki asked for support was so uncomfortable to watch. Also they had no comment on Shawn pressuring Nikki constantly ugh
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u/NiceCandle5357 Aug 30 '26
I agree! They just sat there, why didn't they help her more, both during the show and after? I'm sorry they do not need a podcast, they need to stay as far as possible from giving relationship advice.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
I made a comment in another episode thread about how Belle Jolie talked about having feelings for Mecca, but doesn’t seem to have feelings for herself. I was so proud of her saying that she now realizes that she needed to have the same fire in defending herself as she had for defending their relationship.
I’m glad to see the lifetime of humiliation I posted she would likely experience only lasted a few weeks. I’m also really glad I was wrong and she dumped him rather than the reverse.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Belle Jolie saying she ended things with Mecca right after the cameras went off confirmed my suspicions that she went into the discussion on decision day intending to say no, but decided not to after he said yes.
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u/DeyfennSlayd Aug 29 '26
Once she was outside of the show, someone had words with her. I don't believe it was a self propelled epiphany.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
It’s incredibly disappointing that Courtney and Caitlyn were able to skate by the entire reunion without being held accountable for their abuse of their partners. It showed clear gender prejudice, and as a woman I don’t support that at all. If MAFS USA can’t get it together to finally get some good credible experts, I’m going to be done with this show for good.
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u/SignalUseful Aug 30 '26
I agree. They were not held accountable whatsoever. They were both kind of cruel and slow burn my ass. Just say you don’t like your husband. I felt bad for Devin and Nick the whole time. They are so patient. I do hope that Devin and Nick find better partners. Ones that actually like them and show it… without cameras.
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u/NiceCandle5357 Aug 30 '26
The experts are a joke for sure.
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u/Eric33co 3d ago
I thought it was really weird when Paul started telling off Adam’s new girlfriend. Like she’s not on the show sir
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
It’s also disgusting that these experts had the nerve to actually try to ask Nikki to say nice things about Shawn yet again. I’m really glad this time she stood on business and refused to do so. I also love that she called the experts out to speak up on what he was doing, but of course they immediately redirected to the rest of the cast to do it for them. That was so weak on their part.
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u/NiceCandle5357 Aug 30 '26
I agree!
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u/Eric33co 3d ago
Oh yeah and then Lisa Paz kept making faces like Nikki was out of pocket. It’s interesting how they try to make Nikki come off as way too salty but she’s really not! She has every right to be sick of these fools
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
The repeated defending of Courtney was absurd. Lisa refused to acknowledge that Courtney was in the wrong. At least Paul was willing acknowledge that Nick tried. I just hate how they’re all quick to tell Adam to apologize, but couldn’t be bothered to tell Courtney to apologize for how she treated Nick. All of the women sat there silently when asked if they thought Courtney was rude to him, and there’s no way they would’ve been as silent if Courtney was the male and Nick was the female. I’m glad they finally learned how to back each other as women, but right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of the gender. The women just lost some of my respect in that moment. And if Lisa can’t be unbiased, she really shouldn’t be placed in the role of “expert”. The whole internet saw that Courtney was wrong so they just lost some of their own credibility by not holding her accountable. I wish Nick had defended himself more. I’m really glad Adam stood up for him though.
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u/MyOpinionYourEars Aug 31 '26
Nicks a “gentle”man and I don’t think he cared enough about the whole thing at that point to defend himself. He knows who he is. One minute Courtney is saying she wishes he stood up to her and the next she’s saying she’s an Alpha - Nick was NEVER going to win with her. She’s just insecure and didn’t believe he was into her out the gate. She felt like he was a professional reality TV star and couldn’t possibly be there to actually find his person. I think he was there to find his person and she missed out on a good guy because of her fears and rudeness.
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u/SignalUseful Aug 30 '26
Agreed. I think the girls being quiet was absolute BS. Even after seeing the show and how she treated Nick when they were alone or with her fam… they still didn’t say anything?? Those aren’t a girls girl… that’s just shitty human behavior on all parts. Courtney was the worst and Caitlin is right behind her. The way Caitlin talks about her new guy annoyed me bc it was clear to see she just didn’t like Devin.
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u/New-Interest2377 Aug 30 '26
I think Adam sucks but also kind of glad someone finally laid into Courteney and she was called out for her bad behavior
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
Oh my lord! Courtney is awful but what is Adam’s problem?! He didn’t have to go in like that 😭
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
He has no filter. He was upset and felt she didn’t give respect to Nick so she didn’t deserve respect back.
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u/NiceCandle5357 Aug 30 '26
He's deeply offended and hurt that he didn't come out of this a breakout heartthrob and the next Bachelor. Implying that arguably the worst woman on the show would have been better for him instead of The Hot One TM was a bridge too far for his ego.
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u/jlynn12345 Aug 29 '26
He was fully taking his anger out from Marissa onto another target
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
I’m wondering if something more happened in that one on one pickle ball date then they let on.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 28 '26
Mecca claims he didn’t deny any of the disrespect meanwhile just minutes before he denied saying that Belle Jolie couldn’t get thicker in her chest area. He also claims he didn’t have a chance to take the floor, meanwhile he had plenty of chances to be defensive, but somehow couldn’t use that same time and energy to apologize. This guy needs to just get a job at the 🎪 because he is a🤡
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 28 '26
Adam’s family managed to stay hidden away from this travesty all season. They didn’t even show up for the reunion. Can’t blame them, they obviously know their son.
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u/Thebadparker Aug 29 '26
I wondered if anything he said about them was true. He made it sound like they were all fabulously rich, but the tarp on the roof of his house and the homeless guy for a roommate tell another story.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
True. I was questioning his story about them travelling so long as well. More than likely everything he said about them was a lie just like his house. I also think he exaggerated his career success.
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
Maybe he is estranged from his family but was too embarrassed to reveal that. It was really weird not a single member showed up.
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
🤣 not Shawn doing the math on Adam/marrissa date
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u/NiceCandle5357 Aug 30 '26
I missed that part what did he say?
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 30 '26
They were wrapping up with Adam and then Shawn said “I just have one quick question” and then pointed out that Adam said him and the new girl had been dating 3 months and that that time would have overlapped with the time he asked marrissa on a date
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u/NiceCandle5357 Aug 30 '26
Hahaha when is comes to Adam I'm okay with Shawn, but that's the only time. 😆
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 28 '26
Wow the women are slaying in their dresses 🤩 Special shout out to Nikki, Tori, and Marissa. Full send stunning 😂
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
“Running all over the world with a hickey” 🤣
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Marissa was on 🔥 this episode. She literally had me clapping after everything she said. Belle Jolie too.
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u/Nem3sis2k17 Aug 28 '26
Kinda pissed Nikki was absolutely awful during the show and has no one checking her for accountability. Nah it’s ALL Sean. Fuck off with that bs.
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
LMAO Paul is messy as hell, but thank you! “Tori, you said you wished you had gone in on Felipe that day..what more did you want to say to him that day” 🤣
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
Wow belle! Go off! Where was this energy before, thank god she’s finally giving him lashings
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u/Negative_Cream7173 Aug 28 '26
The way the experts just breezed through Devlin and Caitlin didn't sit well me. Caitlin needed to be called out, she's definitely not the victim of this story and she needed to own up to some shii
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u/rapscallion_pizza Aug 29 '26
Yeah that segment felt really short and definitely overlooked just how awful she was. I’m glad Devin was at least able to voice how confusing the signals were so he never had any clear idea what to do. Also interesting that they didn’t spend much time together outside of filming which I think was a blessing for Devin.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Yeah, they definitely rushed through that segment and didn’t even question her on the fact that she was barely spending time with him off camera. That was really disgusting and the “experts” lost my respect with that.
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u/Sad_Young_6615 Aug 31 '26
I know! Thank God Belle called her out for being inappropriate with Mecca. And giving the green light to Devin! Full send that relationship!!
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
OMGGGGG this is so messy! Calling her by a different name is crazy lmao I’m surprised she didn’t put hands on this man 🤣
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u/rapscallion_pizza Aug 29 '26
And not just any other name, but an ex’s name?! Yikes :/
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
I’m only about 10 minutes in but my goodness, belle has been sitting here looking PISSED. Can’t wait to get to them and see what happens
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u/New_Lingonberry_8504 Aug 28 '26
Just starting the reunion but what is Shawn wearing..
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
I just started as well and was wondering the same exact thing 😂 it looks like an oversized tshirt
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u/NiceCandle5357 Aug 30 '26
At least he's wearing pants this time. You know how he loves to walk around with a t-shirt and a censor blur.
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u/matchabaae Aug 28 '26
Tbh not sure why this reunion is getting so much hate. I was SAT.
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
I’m only about 15/20 minutes in and I’m sitting here giddy as hell, this is GOOD, watching Mecca get his lashings is making me so happy
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u/Crafty-Notice5344 Aug 28 '26
This new “Decision Day” and reunion are exactly copying or “vibing” off The Bachelor””/ette. Glossy! Flashy! Over produced!
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u/greenythings Aug 28 '26
Marissa is lowkey annoying me on this reunion
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u/TTV1994 Aug 31 '26
She basically used the reunion to belittle Adam the entire show. I don’t feel like Adam was truly a bad guy. I thought it was messed up that she repeatedly stated that her ski pickle ball day was the worst day she’s ever had.
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u/Thebadparker Aug 29 '26
The thing that bothered me about her is that as annoying as Adam is, he was always himself. He never pretended to want anything other than a Barbie Doll workout partner. I understand that she didn't like him, but I don't think it's fair to bash a person just for being who he is. They weren't a good match but her attacking him after being meek all season seemed unfair.
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u/Better-Pumpkin-8674 Aug 28 '26
This was my first and last season of this show… I don’t know who on the show Courtney & Shawn are related to but the “experts” DID NOT hold either of them truly accountable. It’s INSANE to see… And hearing Mecca say that Nikki was “aggressive and combative” is WILD to me. I feel like Nikki tried ALOT HARDER with Shawn than most people would have as he’s CLEARLY a difficult person. I don’t get it…
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u/Amanee97 Aug 31 '26
Mecca using that language to describe a black woman didn’t surprise me given his “preferences.”
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
Please don’t give up based on this season. This was not a good representation of the series as a whole. Watch the earlier seasons..from 1 up. Its real and genuine and not overly produced like this season.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Yeah, I was hoping she would go in on Mecca for calling her aggressive and combative. That was disgusting. And yeah, I’m about ready to be done with this show as well. I really hated the way they didn’t challenge Courtney, Caitlyn, or Shawn. They basically asked the cast to hold Shawn accountable instead of doing it themselves.
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u/Sad_Young_6615 Aug 31 '26
Yeah, especially as a black man addressing a black woman.. unacceptable. But that goes along with Mecca feeling the need to humble women. Probably learned it from his creepy dad smh
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u/Throwawayyyy964 Aug 28 '26
I recommend watching early seasons! I watched them in real time up to about season 15/16, earlier seasons didn’t have this group dinner, group therapy stuff that creates all the extra drama. It definitely had its messiness but it was organic mess 🤣 just the occasional shitty/crazy person.
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u/CoastalConfetti Aug 28 '26
Made me so mad no one held Courteney accountable at all. For the “let’s talk shit about him” comments & saying fuck you in front of everyone. That’s what I was hoping for the most. I feel so bad for Nick.
Also, so glad Belle & Mecca are no longer together.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
They literally heard Nick talk about how he had PTSD hypervigilance to where he couldn’t even date properly after Courtney and they pretended that was nothing and just skipped by it. How the heck are you supposedly mental health experts and treat that like it’s nothing? That was disgusting.
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
They are not experts in my
Opinion. They brushed over it probably assuming Nick was overreacting since he’s been on other reality shows.17
u/Ok-Candidate-51 Aug 28 '26
THIS THIS THIS! I was pretty disappointed when none of the girls raised their hand to agree to Felipe asking who on the stage thought Courtney was rude to Nick. Especially when the men were always calling the other men out for being insane and saying insane things. Blind allegiance under the guise of female empowerment is actually called Toxic Femininity. I’m also very annoyed with the so called “experts” for not holding Courtney accountable. That was very odd to watch.
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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 Aug 29 '26
I honestly feel like all the girls just decided to band together and probably believed Courtney saying Nick was the problem
But likely when they all watched the season air they changed their minds
But couldnt raise their hand because that would create a riff in their group
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u/Geegee728 Aug 28 '26
I almost am at the point that I might not watch next season because apparently the girl that was the most rude on the show and dropping F bombs they just blow over it Adam was right to stick up for nick enough of this men bashing she was trash
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Thank you! I’m over it. I think they need to lose viewership in order to change. Every season the new experts are worse than the last. With the exception of Nikki, it seems that only the mental health of women mattered this season and I’m saying that as a woman. It was disgusting. They’re all human beings and all the abusers should be called out, male or female.
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u/Tiredofshiteveryday Aug 28 '26
The experts were useless imo. No one held Courtney accountable. Caitlyn just glided through completely unscathed. They both can dish it but can’t take it. I also didn’t like how the experts complimented Nick instead of addressing Courtney’s deep seated issues that make her so defensive all the time.
Adam and Mecca were also not held accountable at all. Mecca didn’t properly apologize to Belle - he apologized for how he came across on the show. Tf?
The reunion was not satisfying. The experts should have apologized to Nikki, Nick, Tori and Devin. They did them dirty
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
The minute Courtney so much just cries (which she always done every time she’s confronted) whatever male who rightfully held her to account is pressured into apologizing. It’s ridiculous.
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u/GoldTart3207 Aug 28 '26
You’re on the money. As a male, I stand up for men but I’m fair. Adam, Mecca, Shawn and Felipe were absolute jokes. Caitlyn and Courtney, I also agree needed to be held accountable more for their HORRIBLE attitudes. Last but not least, the “experts”(I guess everyone’s an expert) were absolutely horrendous in who they matched up. 1 for 7 on couples who stayed together. Terrible
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u/369111111 Aug 28 '26
The “experts” no matter who they’ve been have always been pretty useless
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u/DeyfennSlayd Aug 29 '26
Loved Adam's new girlfriend shining a flood light on how the show is just another TV Show, built for ratings to sell commercial spots to make $$$. Nothing else. She was spot on, and you know some producer shouted into Paul's ear piece "SHUT THAT SHIT DOWN".
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
Right!! I’m not sure about her opinion of Adam but the show is definitely produced to create drama this season.
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u/waitingfordeathhbu Aug 28 '26
Also EVERYONE should have apologized to Nikki for that one dinner where they all ganged up on her for a misconstrued comment.
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u/Jok3rMontana Aug 28 '26
Honestly I knew chaos was coming & I expected only ONE couple together in the end but the reunion wasn’t so much of a closed chapter as much as it was a chance to throw dirt in front of friends & family members. Those experts were extremely out of pocket. It’s sad that Courtney STILL wasn’t held accountable but Felipe got piled on(understandably so) but he apologized which is more than we can say for Marissa or Courtney or even Shawn. We need Kevin Frasier to host cause these people were cringe
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u/SadProblem8506 Aug 28 '26
Also inappropriate to discuss Michelle’s fertility issues. We don’t need to know about something so personal as that.
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u/BittyBallOfCurly16 19d ago
She shared first at the beginning of the season so they were just following up, probably trying to see where she and Cameron were on their journey to starting a family since Michelle mentioned wanting to start sooner than later
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Assuming Michelle was open to it, I actually really appreciated that. I think a lot of women feel shame about fertility issues, but it’s very common so I think hearing that she was going through it could help a lot of people including her know that she’s not alone. No doubt she’s going to receive a lot of encouragement and emotional support after the reunion.
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u/lynn_chippy Aug 30 '26
I agree. I’m glad she shared. Earlier sub reddits had comments like it’s not really a big deal. A lot of women have fibroids. But it was obviously so much more serious if she needed a hysterectomy.
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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 Aug 29 '26
Agreed I really appreciated she talked about it - I think it’s good visibility into the reality a lot of women face, and also good to normalize other forms of building a family.
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u/thejeffphone Aug 28 '26
the fact that Courteney acted like that on television and still got herself a man….im gonna die alone lol
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Right? And Caitlyn too. It seems like all the trash women immediately found themselves a man and somehow Caitlyn found her person? Give me a break. Let’s see how long either of their new relationships last.
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u/Cookiecakes71 Aug 28 '26
That is not her man.
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u/No-Treat-8079 Aug 28 '26
Right? I don’t believe it for a second that they’re dating. Or that anyone is dating her. He probably works at her gym.
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u/thejeffphone Aug 28 '26
Adam canNOT be serious about that fucking outfit oh my god
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u/Eric33co 3d ago
He’s like not a real person. Or in the words of Kendall Roy “You are not serious people.”
But I do love how Adam and Shawn can’t stand each other and it’s so obvious
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u/Herefortvshowthreads Aug 28 '26
The way the experts framed their questions to nick was almost to try and set him up to be the problem.
First about how he wasn’t vulnerable, and then about how he’s polished and has been on tv before. And then to say “why didn’t you leave?”
Disgusting tbh
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Yeah, that was appalling. They talk so much about accountability, but how about taking some accountability themselves for matching him with someone who went on to psychologically abuse him? And then how about holding themselves accountable for the fact that they never held her accountable throughout the season and still couldn’t be bothered to do so during the reunion? They’re hypocrites and can’t be trusted at all.
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u/DamnGoodCupOfCoffee2 Aug 28 '26
Nick handled himself soooo well! I mean he had to go to therapy after! Those experts make me sick. Would the doctor say to a man cussing out and belittling his wife daily that she loves him cause he’s authentic? Fuck that. Bet the doc is maga too. And a terrible doc
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u/scprice8 Aug 28 '26
I hate being put in the position to defend men but there’s such one sided accountability from the hosts in the questions they ask and how they handle responses
- Ripping on Adam for his living situation is gross and unprofessional
- They made no mention of Marissa’s choice to be dishonest and deny how unhappy she was the entire time which gives her no opportunity for growth or for her partner to address issues and basically wastes BOTH of their time
- Courtney literally saying “well why’d you stay”?, imagine if a man asked a woman he disrespected? “Well why did you stay?” She can take zero criticism and takes zero accountability and because she CRIES she’s exonerated?
- Felipe apologizes profusely, sincerely and without excuses and everyone still goes around and gets their 15 lashes and he’s supposed to take it on the chin
- They ask Adam’s GF for her opinion, she gives it, it favors Adam (her boyfriend) so she’s wrong for that?
Again I HATE being in this position as a woman but fuck these shows are just unbearable when there’s so much bias
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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 Aug 29 '26
When it comes to Adam’s gf im really just upset about her comment around Production doing a good job of making it look real
Or whatever she said
Like… what a way to slam everyones experience
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u/DeyfennSlayd Aug 29 '26
It's a fair observation. Look at the horrible matches... year after year, US, UK, AU and NZ. Always bulk failures. The show is produced for drama to get viewers so it can make $ That's it's purpose. There are countless cast over the enterprise thats speak out about the level of production, manipulation etc that goes on.
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u/user9998887775 Aug 29 '26
I also think it’s hilarious that no one clapped for her lmao. I think when the camera panned we were all expecting someone gorge like Marissa but then we’re just like ohhhh….
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u/Tulipfunk Aug 28 '26
When none of the girls agreed that Courtney was rude to Nick??? Unreal. Rude is an understatement. She verbally abused him.
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u/Geegee728 Aug 28 '26
I literally may not watch next season because of it I am so aggravated only men were held accountable it’s not right
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u/AttentionPersonal567 Aug 28 '26
Right… cause Shawn was surely held accountable for coercion
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u/scprice8 Aug 28 '26
Wayyy more so - multiple men commented that Shaun made THEM uncomfortable as did Nikki's mom not to mention he's since been fired. So yes, by and large the men were held accountable
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u/AttentionPersonal567 Aug 28 '26
Adam literally insulted Courtney so much she cried! Devin and Felipe called her out and the expert mentioned she can dish it but can’t take it. EVERY guy raised their hand when asked if she was mean. You’re creating a false narrative just to be misogynistic
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u/Tulipfunk Aug 30 '26
She cried because she playing the victim 😂😂
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u/AttentionPersonal567 Aug 30 '26
Okay? How’s that relevant to what I was talking about?
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u/Tulipfunk Aug 31 '26
It’s relevant because you’re using her tears as a measurement of how hard Adam went in on her when she’s actually crying to deflect and play the victim, not because he was “insulting” her. Adam was essentially the only one that called out the seriousness of her behavior. There really wasn’t much of that from the experts. The one questioned Nick why he stayed with Courtney as if he was asking for it. NONE of the women agreed that she was rude. Thats a lot different from how Felipe and Shawn were checked. And I would say that Courtney’s And Caitlin’s behavior was worse than what Felipe did. It just wasn’t taken as seriously.
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
As woman, I actually agree that the women were not held accountable. Courtney cries every time she’s confronted. It just speaks to how emotionally immature and one-sided she is and not to how badly Adam insulted her. And yes, the guys raised their hands about her being mean, but none of the women did. It just goes to show that the women have a flexible sense of morality and engage in hypocrisy. A person’s experience and emotions are only valid if they’re female, but if a male is abused and has something to say about it then the general attitude is that it doesn’t matter and he should’ve just left if it was that bad.
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u/scprice8 Aug 29 '26
Adam insulted her so much she cried - she cries at the drop of a hat at the moment that she's being held accountable, and he insulted her Pickleball playing… Not exactly a racial slur
Every GUY raised their hand when asked if she was mean - yet not one host called her out for her complete lack of effort and pure gaslighting - all of the fake reasons she came up with for being cold towards Nick, claiming that she just could not get to know the real him trying to create a villain out of him so that she could be justified in her behavior
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u/AttentionPersonal567 Aug 29 '26
I just noticed you said she cries “the moment that she’s being held accountable” so you literally just admitted that she WAS being held accountable. So saying only men were held accountable is untrue and misogynistic
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u/scprice8 Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 29 '26
Now this is sad. I gave several many examples in other replies of ways Courtney wiggled out of accepting responsibility for her behavior.
You acknowledged none of those examples and now you're just digging for technicalities because you can't meaningfully respond.
The women - mostly Courtney and Caitlin - were not held to the same standard and made to take responsibility for their actions like Felipe or Adam were.Take care.
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u/AttentionPersonal567 Aug 29 '26
Show me where I said she was called a racial slur?? Why would you even use that comparison. He said that if he was with her he’d leave her within a week and that he doesn’t know how nick put up with her behavior. I genuinely don’t understand what the point of this response was because you still did not prove that Shawn was held more accountable than Courtney. Is it just that your reading comprehension is so poor that you think I’m defending Courtney?
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u/scprice8 Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 29 '26
No I used racial slur which I stand by because the insult she cried about was ridiculous, and she responded to it as IF it was a slur -
Adam answered a question he was asked. saying "I'd be done in a week" did not warrant her level of dramatics - but it worked in her favor. She cried and that made everyone see her as a victim and suddenly Adam owed her an apology, and she got multiple apologies... that's evading accountability.Mind you, the only reason the question came up is because during the show in the midst of treating her fiancé like crap she called Adam, hot.,. That's gross.
And her defense at the reunion is "I'm an alpha." ....
Seriously? If she was a man she'd be considered a narcissist and egomaniac but nope, she cried so they let it go.Not a single woman checked Courtney, meanwhile Shawn was checked by several men - including Mecca and Felipe who said he made them uncomfortable. Plus dr Cal called him out. Then he dug his own grave and spent the whole time arguing and he deflected so often that he walked away looking horrible... He was thoroughly embarrassed on that stage which is sometimes all the justice / accountability we get. Meanwhile Courtney was able to stick to her "alpha" bs and no one called her out
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Yeah, her not being checked on the “alpha” comment was wild. If any of the men on stage said that it would immediately be called out as red pill and incel, and yet there was a lot of femcel energy on that stage that went unchecked.
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u/Tulipfunk Aug 28 '26
Yeah, I was really hoping Nick and Devin would get some validation at the reunion. disappointing
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u/caroliner1234567890 Aug 27 '26
Does anyone know the specific dates of decision day? And the timeline Marissa outlined for Adam DMing someone else?
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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 Aug 29 '26
To me even regardless of if his DM was flirty or not to that girl its still shocking to me that his marriage is ending and on a really emotional day he doesn’t just take a minute to breathe and let the dust settle
I feel like so many men do this after a breakup (from my experience, 2 exes did this - women might too, but ive just seen this pattern more frequently with men!) where they just IMMEDIATELY do whatever to try to make life normal again, go on a date, or basically act like the breakup never happened
Not healthy
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u/caroliner1234567890 26d ago
Completely agree! I was just wondering because my friend and I randomly met him once and he texted her a few different times in August & October 2025. Just was curious about the actual dates to solidify the outrageousness
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u/nitp Aug 27 '26
ummmm when Nick is talking about being verbally abused and both Courteney and Dr. Lisa are like “well why did you stay?” it’s really giving victim blaming. “if the abuse was so bad, why did you stay? why didn’t you leave?” is a CLASSIC line of questioning that so many DV victims have been on the receiving end of and the parallel is clear.
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u/deewayne3 Aug 29 '26
They simply stated the options that were available to him, and gave him a chance to explain. not everything is victim blaming. He explained his reasoning well
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u/Far_Project3150 Aug 29 '26
Thank you. Funny how none of the women like Tori, Marissa, and Belle Jolie were asked that same question.
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u/369111111 Aug 28 '26
He stayed because reality tv is his creative outlet and why should he be deprived of that
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u/matchadelite01 24d ago
I hate how when a woman is in the wrong. None of the other women stand up and say something. That just perpetuates bad behavior. Like when no other woman raised her hand when they asked if Courtney was rude. She was so blatantly, aggressive, and hostile and definitely rude to Nick but then she just took it as a gender problem that was so infuriating.