r/crowbro • • May 08 '20

Facts Feeding Crows In Your Neighborhood: What They Like and What's Safe

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A user asked me this question yesterday and I figured it would make for a good larger post. For those who don't know me, which is probably everyone, I'm an ecologist currently studying invasive mosquito population genetics in North America. I have a background in shorebird and grassland bird conservation and arthropod behavior and sensory ecology. Currently working on my Ph.D. I frequently comment in nature-based subs. All this to say, I keep up with crow literature and am very familiar with bird biology. I'm going to share with you safe foods for crows and a little about their feeding behavior. I never expect anyone to take my word for it so I'll share some sources with you as I go along. Thanks for being a part of a sub that is very near and dear to my heart!

Crow Feeding Behavior

I've noticed crows in my area come to the same places to eat in the morning and again in mid-afternoon. The rest of the day they forage around the neighborhood before returning either to large roosting trees in the Fall/Winter (around 4pm) or to family nests in the Spring and Summer. If you want your home to be a usual place to stop either during their main mealtime or on their foraging tour leave food out the same time every day. Ring a bell, honk a horn, use a crow call (make sure you are trying to sound like a "I've found food" call and not a "Danger!" call. Crows in the neighborhood will associate this with food and come to get treats. Dr. Kaeli Swift shares a two-part blog post, the first by her colleague Loma Pendergraft and the second written by her and Loma if you are interested in crow vocalizations. Here is Part 1 and here is Part 2.

Crows love water! If you have birdbaths out they will dip their food in it to soften harder foods and they spend a lot of time drinking. More so than I've noticed with smaller songbirds. Often people will find dead rodents and other things leftover in their birdbaths from crows.

What to Feed Crows

Before I get into this I'd like to say that crows do not need you to feed them. Thre's a great quote from this article by Dr. John Marzluff:

Will the crow be let down if you stop feeding it? Without a doubt. Breaking up is hard to do. Still, after running your predicament by Marzluff, the idea that the crow is "dependent" on you seems a little self-important. "The crow is certainly working the person," Marzluff said. "It will find another meal."

Neither do any backyard birds. They are fully capable of foraging unless there is some serious environmental issue happening. I know we are all going to feed them anyway! When I lived in the suburbs I fed birds as well. :)

What is safe for crows:

  • Kibble (cat or dog) that is pea-sized - it is full of essential nutrients for omnivores and easy for them pick up and swallow
  • Eggs of any kind
  • Seeds and nuts (unsalted - I'll explain why further down).
  • Cooked small potatoes or thawed tater tots (check tots for salt content, you can get unsalted)
  • Meat scraps (unseasoned)
  • Cheese (check the salt content, definitely no feta or other salty cheese, try to also avoid processed cheeses)
  • Mealworms and crickets

What is not safe for crows (and really all birds):

  • Salt - too much salt can cause serious neurological issues in birds. A little salt is okay and some birds are more salt-tolerant than others (pigeons) but they will eat everything you leave out for them which can end up being too much. Birds don't do portion control.
  • Lunchmeat - it's a salt issue
  • Bread - bread is not so much not safe as it's devoid of nutrients. Give them good foods like seeds and nuts, bread is filler.

Because I never want you to take someone's word for it here are a few sources about salt:

Garden birds are practically unable to metabolise salt. It is toxic to them in high quantities and affects their nervous system. Under normal circumstances in the wild, birds are unlikely to take harmful amounts of salt. Never put out salted food onto the bird table, and never add salt to bird baths to keep water ice-free in the winter.

From Nature Forever Society:

The ability to process salt varies between species, but most can produce uric acid with a maximum salt concentration of about 300 mmol/litre. Amongst our garden birds, house sparrows and pigeons are some of the most salt-tolerant species. The capability to secrete salt seems to be linked to habitat, particularly marine environment and drought conditions.

Because most garden birds are poor at coping with salty food, it is important not to offer them anything with appreciable amount of salt in it. As such, salty fats, salty rice, salted peanuts, most cured foodstuffs, chips, etc. should not be offered to birds. It can be difficult to eliminate salt entirely, but very small amounts of salt should not cause any problems, particularly if fresh drinking water is also available.

All that being said, there are some birds who really love salt, and if you want to leave out a salt option in a safe way you can! The Nationa Audubon Society recommends:

Mineral matter such as salt appeals to many birds, including evening grosbeaks, pine siskins, and common redpolls. An easy way to provide it is by pouring a saline water solution over rotted wood until crystals form.

If you love Corvids and want to learn more I have a few book recommendations:

  • Gifts of the Crow: How Perception, Emotion, and Thought Allow Smart Birds to Behave Like Humans by Dr. John Marzluff
  • In the Company of Crows and Ravens by Dr. John Marzluff
  • Mind of the Raven: Investigations and Adventures with Wolf-Birds by Dr. Bernd Heinrich

Backyard Birds:

  • Welcome to Subirdia by Dr. John Marzluff

r/crowbro • • Jun 09 '20

Baby Bird 101 - DO NOT TAKE A BABY CROW OR ANY BIRD FROM THE WILD

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There was recently a post by a user who basically stole a baby crow from its parents. Never take a wild bird into your home, they are not pets, they need their parents, they need socialization with their own species, you are not equipped to raise them. Additionally, it is probably illegal for you to own one.

If you take a crow out of the wild and share that in this sub you will receive a ban. If someone reports back that you have done this and shared in a different sub but not here, you will receive a ban and we will contact the mods of that sub about your negligence. We have zero tolerance for this.

We received an excellent modmail from u/MarlyMonster who is a wildlife rehabber in Canada. I am going to quote her here and hope she pops into the comment section to elaborate or answer any questions. I know we have a few rehabbers on the sub and I am an ecologist so between all of us if you need to know something we'll figure it out. Additionally, if you are a wildlife rehabber or scientists specializing in Corvids and want flair that gives you this title you will need to PM mods some kind of proof.

Here are Marly's words on the subject:

Baby Bird 101

Lately I’ve been seeing way too many posts about people “helping” birds that really don’t need help, which makes it kidnapping. As a rehabber, it hurts my heart when I see inexperienced people try to care for any kind of wild animal, but when they start to mess with wild corvids it becomes plain cruel. This is why I’m writing this little guide to help people determine whether or not a bird they think needs help actually needs assistance.

A lot of people assume that when a fledgling is on the ground and not in a tree or nest, that this little bird is in distress. What you actually don’t realize, is that when fledglings get to a certain age, right before they learn to fly, they leave the nest while they practice and their parents continue to feed them on the ground. The fledgling has not been abandoned! They’re just being adventurous!

The best course of action for any baby bird you see on the ground is to put it back in their nest. It’s a myth that the parents will “smell the human” and reject the baby. So you’re fine to grab a ladder and put that little awkward bundle of feathers back where they came from.

Whenever you fear a baby has been abandoned, put it back in the nest and keep an eye on it for the next few hours. Parents can get spooked and might take some time to return.

The only time it’s okay to bring a bird in is if they are visibly injured. A broken toe does not count (this is a reference to the idiot who named the bird “Hades” and is pretending to help it).

IF A BABY BIRD NEEDS HELP DO NOT TRY TO RAISE IT YOURSELF

If you are not trained to rehab wildlife, you have no business trying to raise a fledgling! Just like someone who isn’t a mechanic shouldn’t be trying to fix an engine, an untrained person should not be raising a bird!

Baby birds are extremely fragile and difficult to care for. A lot of them don’t make it even in the hands of an experienced rehabber.

Did you know that giving a baby bird water is one of the worst things to do? Yet a lot of people immediately think that’s the first thing to do for a baby bird. Baby birds get their needed moisture from their food, and therefore don’t need water. Pouring water down their throat will actually cause them to aspirate and if this happens the chance they’ll survive is slim to none, since they’ll get aspiration pneumonia.

Since this is a corvid page I’m gonna touch on why it’s cruel for someone inexperienced to try to raise a corvid.

As some of you might be aware of, these birds possess a higher intelligence than most birds. They are considered the apes of the bird family because there are parallels between the cognitive abilities of corvids and great apes.

Because of this, they make terrible pets. They need constant mental stimulation and enrichment or they’ll become completely miserable. Often they’ll turn to self mutilation to deal with the depression. They are also extremely social creatures and live in large families with connections that go back generations. Keeping one on their own is an act of cruelty in and of itself.

Corvids are also known for this thing called “imprinting”. This refers to the bond the baby bird makes with their family members which will dictate their behaviour. For this reason, rehabbers that specialize in corvids have to be extremely careful while tending to their birds because too much interaction with humans could doom a bird from ever being released, because they got too attached to humans. A crow imprinted on a human will not know they’re a crow. They’ll see themselves as the same species. This means they won’t ever find a mate, because they won’t understand that they are supposed to mate with other crows.

I hope this helped you understand the importance of not trying to raise any birds you find. As tempting as it may be, you will not be ready for the commitment. Not only that, but it’s cruel to the animal. The main objective of any rehabber is the release of the animal. And those who truly care about these birds should have the same goal. If that means you don’t get to raise a crow, that shouldn’t stop you from doing the right thing.

If you find an injured baby bird, contact a wildlife facility near you. If you can’t find one, go on your regional Facebook groups and ask if there are private rehabbers around.

If you do not have the commitment to see this through and drive a baby bird hours to the nearest rehabber? Please do the bird a favor and let nature take its course. Don’t interfere if you won’t follow it all the way through and get it to a proper rehabber.

Written by a rehabber and corvid researcher.


r/crowbro • • 17h ago

Crow Art I made a Steller’s jay out of wool. Hope you like him

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I’ve been getting a lot of Steller’s jays visiting my patio. It inspired me to make one. I made him out of wool, wire, glass and clay. He is 1:1 scale, roughly 12” long. This is the biggest bird I’ve made so far. You can see the other birds I’ve made on IG. They’re small backyard birds. I’d like to make a crow in the future.

Apparently I have to pick a flair. I know this is not a crow but ‘crow art’ is the closest flair I could find


r/crowbro • • 9h ago

Crow OC This is a raven right?

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This is a raven right? It’s huge but what is throwing me is that it and another large one was hanging out with the crows I was feeding and got just as close as the crows do. The ravens around here are usually timid and will usually just come down very cautiously and rarely. There is a bonded pair I usually see down in the canyon and they don’t ever hang out with the crows.

Or is it just a huge crow?


r/crowbro • • 14h ago

Crow OC Queen Nyx enjoying her afternoon snacks

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r/crowbro • • 8h ago

Personal Story Arizona Raven 2008 Model

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New to this sub, but it made me remember a really cool photo my wife took of a raven (I think) while we were on vacation in Arizona back in 2008. Enjoy, comment, educate.


r/crowbro • • 10h ago

Crow OC Caught this jackdaw looking like it had just read my search history.

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r/crowbro • • 1h ago

Video Crow goals reached

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Sorry for the blocked view, just didn’t want to startle them by moving. I have officially met my goal of gaining crow friends! They don’t automatically fly away when I open the door and are actually waiting for me in the morning. If I time it right, they are ready to swarm in the minute I walk away. Not sure if I can maintain this crews appetite though! Haha. I am going to soak it up for the time being though ❤️😝


r/crowbro • • 19h ago

Video Crow friend greeting me with a meow?

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Hello, could anyone tell me why my crow friend made these sounds today? Never occurred until now!


r/crowbro • • 11h ago

Crow Art Plush-crested jay I painted first with watercolors, and later with soft pastels! I love their colors

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r/crowbro • • 11h ago

Video Let me help you with that…

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Blue jay got some help with sharing the peanuts. LOL…


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC I was sad to say goodbye to my family of crows the other month, but now I've got new corvids!

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I had a family of friendly crows at the old house who came by every day when I got home. Now that I've moved far from the city and live out in the woods, my new friends are Steller Jays. They're very social, and love to stop by my window to peer inside.


r/crowbro • • 19h ago

Crow OC Posing in October leaves

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r/crowbro • • 13h ago

Personal Story My 2 Buddies

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So I have been feeding the crows on my walks and 2 have started following me home. One of them has some white speckles on its head and thats the only thing I can tell to distinguish it.

This morning I heard cawing outside and I saw one outside my window. I went outside and put out food, but they don’t appear hungry. They are just perched in the tree across from my office window.

I love that they are just hanging out. It’s also a lot earlier than I usually see them and feed them. It’s 10:30am vs my 4-5pm walk and feeding.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Video Raven kisses

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r/crowbro • • 15h ago

Personal Story making progress with my local corvid bros!

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I hope I picked the right flair!

yesterday was a very exciting day. there is at least one bluejay (or perhaps a mated pair) and a trio (that I learned today is a quartet?) of American crows I'm trying to befriend.

for maybe 10 days, one or more of the crows has perched in my yard sometime in the morning, cawing it up usually, but sometimes they're totally silent and here recently I've been hearing more rattle calls. the bluejay has been coming by for more like a week, and it's always a brief, quiet drop-in-- he's pretty sneaky!

however, yesterday we made some awesome progress! whenever one of the corvids lands in the yard, I do a two-note whistle and drop some peanuts on an overturned plastic lid. the bluejay came by 3 times in 30 minutes yesterday, and the second two times he came down for a peanut!! later on, from inside, I watched him raid the bounty for about half an hour, caching nuts nearby. it was so rad!!

on note of the crows, they're hanging out longer, and closer. yesterday we were backing out of the driveway and they'd found some roadkill right next door, and they were totally unbothered by us driving near. I tossed some peanuts for them. the crows were still there when I got back. I kept an eye on them from the porch, and I am almost positive I heard one of them cracking a peanut open after a while-- the first time I've had true reason to believe they have accepted my treats!!

I'm so happy that this seems to be working. as I write this, I'm pretty sure one of the crow bro's is in my yard cawing, so I'm gonna go drop off some peanuts!


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Question I’m worried I offended my crow buddies:(

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Crow that immediately came down when it saw me🥺🥺⬆️
I’ve been feeding them a while now just given them unsalted peanuts and they’ve begun to recognize me and fly over before they see the peanuts and then look at me sadly when I don’t have them. They’ve also been getting within six feet of me which is progress. The issue is that there are tons of seagulls sometimes when I feed them and they bully and snap at the crows and take the peanuts, so I try and scare them away by walking at them or moving toward them and I try and make it pretty clear that I was just chasing away the seagulls and the first few times I did it they would be fine coming back closer but then the last time I did it they all went super far away and refused to get within like 20 feet and then eventually flew away even though I was still scattering some peanuts around:((


r/crowbro • • 14h ago

Question Arctic Ravens: is this nonsense?

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Yesterday we were on the cog train that goes up to the top of Pikes Peak in CO, USA. I love corvids and know quite a few but had never heard of an Arctic Raven the train conductor spotted at about 13k feet. Granted they were the largest ravens I personally have ever seen, I searched the interwebs today and can find nothing about that specific population of ravens being anything other than Corvus corax. I don't see anything called an Arctic Raven.

Anyone able to offer some clarity? Plz & ty.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC Just a magpie being magnificent.

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r/crowbro • • 22h ago

Personal Story The Seagull Problem

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I've been feeding the crows regularly for a little over 5 months, and the seagulls have been interrupting these feeding sessions for about 2 months or so. The seagulls have gradually become more and more of an issue when I've been trying to get food to the crows, to the point where the crows are now getting almost none of the food I'm putting out.

I'm at a bit of a loss on what to do now. The seagulls know who I am, and they gather when they know I'm putting food out. They're not scared of me anymore, even when I chase them away. Some of the particularly bold juveniles don't even fly away when I'm right next to them, within distance of being able to reach them. I refuse to bring any harm to them, and I almost think that they know that and just don't care about my scare tactics.

I try to sneak food around the seagulls, where I know the crows are watching and can see me, but then the seagulls simply follow the crows wherever they're going, and steal all the food anyway. The crows never put up a fight, and just let the seagulls take it all, hoping to get some scraps that might be left over. There's almost never any leftovers because there's so many hungry seagulls, that everything is devoured in minutes.

I've slowly been going out to do it less and less regularly. I was doing it every other day, now I'm barely doing it once a week. I've just been slowly giving up with it, especially because sunrise is now later, meaning there's more people awake when I do the feeding, and more interruptions as a result.

I'm not really sure if there's any point in continuing. The crows still come when I whistle, but there just doesn't seem like there's much point anymore when they can't actually get anything.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow Art My drawing of a magpie with a walnut

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It's a graphite drawing I did a few years ago.


r/crowbro • • 2d ago

Video Ravenbro

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I was so happy to see one of my raven friends back this morning, they were around a lot in the spring but sporadically through the summer.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Video Another day hanging out with these two neat creatures

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r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Daily Crow Friend My little friends

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These five come daily and sometimes multiple times a day for peanuts! The boys are pretty cool and get close. The female, who I call Squackus is super standoffish. She is new to this group only this summer. The boys have been with me for years.🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC Forest Crow

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This little guy landed on a tree branch near us, and allowed me to come close and take a picture of him.

📍 Alanya Kalesi, Alanya, Turkey.