r/anime • u/AnimeMod myanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan • 10d ago
Meta Meta Thread - Month of October 04, 2026
Rule Changes
This is a monthly thread to talk about the /r/anime subreddit itself, such as its rules and moderation. If you want to talk about anime please use the daily discussion thread instead.
Comments here must, of course, still abide by all subreddit rules other than the no meta requirement. Keep it friendly and be respectful. Occasionally the moderators will have specific topics that they want to get feedback on, so be on the lookout for distinguished posts. If you wish to message us privately send us a modmail.
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u/Goldeagle1123 8h ago
I don’t know if mods actually read this, but I really wish you would reconsider your ban on sharing old OPs & EDs. It’s a subreddit for anime. I just wanted to share, talk about, and reminisce about the Toradora opening with some likeminded people. I feel like big subreddits like this are a bit too trigger happy with their auto-moderation.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 7h ago
I don’t know if mods actually read this
That's exactly what this thread is for, a good number of us read every comment here.
The rule's really only restricting sharing individual OPs/EDs as video posts, there are a lot of discussions about them more generally like this post from earlier today trying to make a list of them and the regular Best OP/Best ED contests (the most recent of which ended last month).
Personally, I talk about specific older openings/endings on a regular basis as comments in the daily discussion thread, e.g. the Sailor Moon Crystal OPs a few days ago.
I feel like big subreddits like this are a bit too trigger happy with their auto-moderation.
They kind of have to be to not be overrun by easy to consume content, there's only so much space on the front page and the general policy of /r/anime at least is to generally lean toward more news/discussion than "wasn't this great?" kinds of posts. It's something worth talking about now and then though as a general check to see if a rule is still warranted, I'll bring it up with the team.
(And as an aside, a human removed your post, that wasn't automated.)
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler 1d ago
So how was the 'question of the day' trial in the daily thread?
Spawning from /u/Emi_Ibarazakiii original suggestion last month. I added a 'question of the day' to the daily discussion thread. The first six days had the question in the thread itself, then following that we moved to a sticky comment to collate discussion.
I think it is safe to say that it got pretty good engagement. My general vibe was that the sticky comment provided better centralized discussion rather than discussion being scattered throughout the thread.
What is happening next?
I am pausing posting further questions till we can better automate the process (because me logging into AnimeMod at post time is not sustainable).
In the meantime ill use the current automation to sticky the question submission form to collect questions. With the intent to work out the backend soon and return with more QoTD action.
You can submit questions in this form here.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 3h ago
I've really enjoyed reading everyone's answers to the QOTD, and it's made the thread feel livelier even outside the pinned comment. It's been a welcome shot in the arm as the thread's been feeling kinda sleepy.
I know it's going to be a challenge to come up with hundreds of questions, but I believe in us.
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u/cyberscythe 15h ago
i liked it, and it seemed like people were voting with their feet to comment in there so it seems like it drummed up activity
i suspect we might have difficulty in the future creating new and fun questions (unless we start repeating), but that doesn't mean we can't let it run its course until the well is dry
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 16h ago
So how was the 'question of the day' trial in the daily thread?
I think it went well, it was a fantastic idea and whoever came up with that should be added to the Mount Rushmore of anime!
More seriously: Personally I think both versions were fine (question in the OP, or question in a top comment), but I do understand the gripe people had about the answer perhaps monopolizing the discussion (though in my opinion, I saw it as a matter of "If people want discussion on other topics, they can create said topics").
But yeah it worked in a top comment as well, I think there was a bit of discussions in there (and not just people spamming their answers and that's it). Perhaps not as much as when it was in the thread, but a fair amount!
About the questions themselves: I liked the variety, and the fact that some questions were about anime itself, while others were about the psychology surrounding it, etc..!
You can submit questions in this form here
I'll submit a few in a bit; If you ever run short of questions in the bank (or just run out of 'good ones') a reminder would be nice, because people probably won't think about submitting them regularly!
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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad 16h ago
I really liked the questions of the day. It brings more discussion and attention to shows beyond what's currently airing, which is something I appreciate since I don't watch many seasonals these days. I think the single sticky comment chain worked best, because that way I could read everyone's QOTD answers without searching the whole thread, but either one is fine.
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u/Zeallfnonex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 19h ago
I liked the single top-level approach better, though I understand it's more operationally complex.
It kind of came down to the type of questions: there's some that only spawned single answers with no followup, and some that got some actual discussion going. Overall good, though I'd prefer more of the latter type of questions.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 16h ago
the type of questions: there's some that only spawned single answers with no followup, and some that got some actual discussion going
Yeah I think in time people (the mods, or people submitting questions) will see what questions work best/are most fun!
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u/alotmorealots 7h ago
I feel like there should be a way of creating stats for each AQRADTQOTD in terms of total comments { total top level comments + total replies {average length of comment chain, longest comment chain} }. Then you could have a league table for people to see what sort of questions work, rather than trying to keep them all in your head.
I say feel like because it's been years since I poked about in the Reddit API so forget if there's a quick way of identifying the depth of the [comment tree.] !!!
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 1d ago
As noted recently the special subdomains that we used as an option to filter posts on old reddit (e.g. https://xd.reddit.com/r/anime would hide posts with the Clip flair) have stopped working, so unfortunately the "Hide flairs" links in the top nav dropdown have been replaced with inferior searches that exclude those flairs.
If you use Reddit Enhancement Suite you can also filter out posts with a specific flair via the filteReddit Flair settings.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots 1d ago
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 18h ago
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah x3 1d ago
In a related vein as this comment here, we've added a few more comment face aliases as follows. Please note that, as it is an alias, the original comment face syntax will continue to work. However, perhaps some previously mistyped, and hence "broken comment faces" will now work.
"megadethparty" can now also be used for the "megadeathparty" comment face
"itshouldhavebeenme" can now also be used for the "itsnotfair" comment face
"shockedpikachu" can now also be used for the "surprisedpikachu" comment face
"sniffle" can now also be used for the "kanyehidouyo" comment face
"bigwig" can now also be used for the "nottodisushittoagen" comment face
"tableflip" can now also be used for the "volibearQ" comment face
"UQdkni4" can now also be used for the "wakarimasu" comment face
both "ohio" or "ohayo" can now also be used for the "firstthinginthemorning" comment face
with thanks to /u/sporadia_ for the code suggestion to making this work.
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u/baseballlover723 1d ago
"UQdkni4" can now also be used for the "wakarimasu" comment face
Uso desu. I have made them not be identical anymore. vs .
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u/baseballlover723 4d ago
Btw, if you are ever temp banned, and you don't get unbanned when your time is up, or if you get a permanent ban when the message indicates it's a temporary ban, you should modmail us. Reddit sometimes fucks shit up.
I found 11 users who got banned for a short period of time, and are still banned for some reason (who are now unbanned). One of them has been banned for an extra 5 months for what should have been a 3 day ban.
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker 5d ago
Will discussions about "The Boxer" be allowed in this sub?
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u/MyrnaMountWeazel x2 4d ago
Taking a cursory look at the information available, I would say it'll be allowed since a majority of the key staff are from Japan.
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u/Born_Usual998 6d ago
will we have a rewatch for "childhood" anime (Yo-kai watch, Hamtaro, Kirby right back at ya etc) those shows raised me
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 6d ago
Rewatches are user-hosted, so someone would have to organise one. You can always be the one to take up that mantle!
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u/Born_Usual998 6d ago
oh hell yeah! would the full series of Yo-Kai Watch be too much? if so I can limit it to just season 1 which is available for free on youtube
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 6d ago
It wouldn't be too much, but at that length I'd strongly recommend to make it a weekly rewatch. Otherwise, adhere to the hosting guide.
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u/Born_Usual998 6d ago edited 6d ago
Where do I ask for interest? Is it in these threads cause if so I’ll have to wait till tomorrow cause there’s not much time toaday
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 6d ago
You have to make a post for it. You can use search to look at how other people went about it.
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u/Born_Usual998 7d ago
why does every post get downvoted in this sub?
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u/Verzwei 6d ago
- A lot of common "low effort" or repeated topics tend to get downvoted. You see this a lot with [What to Watch?] recommendation posts because the majority of them are incredibly nonspecific. It's very rare for that type of post to gain traction here. [Help] posts get downvoted a lot, too, because the ones detailed enough to get answered get removed as part of subreddit cleanup, and the ones left over are too vague.
- You've been spamming the same concern trolling topics across a variety of subreddits every few days for the last three actual years. People are probably sick of you posting the exact same bait, farming engagement from it, then deleting the post only to repeat the process after a couple days pass. Any poster who was interested in any form of actual discussion would have gotten their answers and, for better or for worse, accepted them long ago. TBH the subs you do this in should have banned you by now.
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u/Born_Usual998 6d ago
No I meant that half of every post in this sub that isn’t just general news seems to be downvoted in this sub, not just mine
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u/hvshh 6d ago
It must be the work of Dark Reunion.
Seriously: imagine there is some small group of users on this sub who 1) check often, so they are disproportionately often the first vote, and 2) downvote immediately if anything about a comment even slightly annoys them. In that case you would expect to see basically fine, new comments at 0 pretty often.
I don't think there's anything to be done about it. Sometimes I consider just upvoting every comment that isn't actively bad, but that gets tiring.
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u/Time_Fracture https://myanimelist.net/profile/Time_Fracture 7d ago
I know this will happen, but since the title on the streaming services (Aniplus, Crunchyroll, and Bilibili so far are sticking to this title) is now The Cold Sato-san is Only Sweet to Me, will the title of the discussion thread change?
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler 6d ago
The title will swap to
The Cold Sato-san is Only Sweet to Mefrom next week on.
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u/baquea 8d ago
The link to the best opening 4 threads on the brackets wiki leads to an offsite page that appears to be a victim of linkrot.
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u/TheDanubianCommunard 9d ago
Pre- and post-season surveys are still alive or got abandoned?
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u/LeminaAusa 9d ago
Hah, I came in here specifically to see if this was addressed. I usually use those surveys as my own way to assess things and formally decide what I want to check out in the upcoming season, so the autumn season kinda snuck up on me.
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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 10d ago
Last month's thread had a comment chain about instigating/driveby comments in unrelated discussion/media threads, with a response of (picking baseballlover723's):
we didn't end up settling on an adequate wording that didn't single out specific show, didn't suppress legitimate criticism, and probably some other things I'm forgetting too
Is there any interest from the moderator side for a reduced scope addressing just the media thread part? I get the no NGNL S2 comments as almost all isekai deserve sequels, but wtf does that have to do with a different series getting a S3 announcement?
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 10d ago
I feel like at some point, comments need to be somewhat on topic...
To respond to something from the last thread:
For instance, we generally allow people to talk about donghua or non anime in the comments, provided it is part of the natural flow of conversation.
If it's an afterthought in an otherwise on topic comment sure, but I'm pretty sure if someone opened a random thread to make their "TBHX episode 8 review", it would not fly.
So I think that's kinda where the nuance is...
I often talk about 'off-topic' stuff in my comments, but when the comment is 3 pages long with 20 screenshots from the episode, referring to 1 other show doesn't make it offtopic.
If my entire comment was that reply about the other show though, it'd be offtopic.
I get that the mod team might not want to take drastic actions that may be seen as some NO FUN ALLOWED draconian nonsense, but I don't know, I'm not sure why every single anime announcement thread needs to have its mandatory "But still no X sequel".
There's no hiding that personally, I hate all the generic vapid one-liners people throw everywhere (THIS OP IS A BANGER!) but it's even worse when the're completely offtopic.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 10d ago
I'm not sure why every single anime announcement thread needs to have its mandatory "But still no X sequel"
I'd be curious to actually skim through threads and see trends, but I'd wager this is disproportionately seen in shows that are viewed as lower quality. Like I don't think it's necessarily a useful comment, but I do think that these come with an implicit "This show is low quality and I can't believe it's getting a continuation" that makes them on topic. I doubt I'd see comments like that if I went to a Frieren announcement, for example.
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u/cppn02 10d ago
this is disproportionately seen in shows that are viewed as lower quality
To a degree yes. But for example you literally can't have an announcement for a show by A-1 without crybabies in the comments asking about 86.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 9d ago
I mean there's not that many A-1 continuations in the past five years. I think the most recent announcement was for Mashle S3 and there's no 86 comments in the thread. Maybe I'm not thinking of the right threads though.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 10d ago
I mean, of course they are, but...
Say you were a mod (or just a normal user) in some music sub, and there was a Nickelback thread in which someone commented "Wow Nickelcrap released their album, but I still have to wait before Taylor Swift blesses us with some good music..."
Personally I'd think "Ok, then fuck off to some Taylor Swift thread?"
Way I see it, this example is pretty much identical to someone commenting "omg we get this but not that" in an anime thread.
(And God knows I'm not 'defending these anime/threads', I mean 95% of those comments are in threads for garbage generic isekai I'll probably make fun of in AQRADT... But that's the thing, I go to the 'random discussion' thread, I don't shit up their main thread with OMG WHY THIS BUT NOT TALENTLESS NANA?!?!##!!)
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 9d ago
In the actual real example provided, there's like 3 comments mentioning NGNL. One is:
Really glad to see it being renewed. Old Country Bumpkin also got renewed for a third season. Following this wave, I really hope we get a second season for No Game No Life too.
Which sure is shoving in an unrelated show, but isn't trying to be negative. The other two are downvoted and barely getting any response. Realistically Rent a Girlfriend would have been a better example, but even there it's like the 8th and 10th top level comments before you start seeing it. If it isn't dominating discussion even in threads about r/anime's favorite show to dump on, then I don't think it's something we need to worry about.
It's not something where I'm particularly concerned about creating a new rule.
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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 10d ago
At this point in time, don't particularly care about comment chains as those can go anywhere. Am asking about top-level comments that are in no way engaging with the post.
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u/baseballlover723 10d ago
Oh yeah, I didn't end up really picking up that discussion. Kinda ran out of time with some other things to really take over championing that. Probably won't get around to it this weekend, given the recent news taking priority, but remind me in like 2 weeks if I don't mention anything.
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u/LG03 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bronadian 10d ago
I know you guys have seen this but is there any comment for users here?
TLDR for those not in the know: automod=dead, old.reddit=dead to new users
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u/ududbsisysveiudvdid https://myanimelist.net/profile/ 9d ago edited 9d ago
> old.reddit=dead to new users
I can’t believe new users will never be able to use comment faces! although if I am reading the post correctly, as long as I mod an arbitrary subreddit, then I (or a new user) should be able to indefinitely use old reddit w/o worrying about the existing 6 month activity period.
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u/aniMayor x3x6 8d ago
should be able to indefinitely use old reddit w/o worrying about the existing 6 month activity period
Until a year from now the admins announce that "well since the number of old.reddit accounts is down we're removing old.reddit altogether"
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ 9d ago
Yeah, I'm wondering if this is a loophole, and if moderating one's personal subreddit counts.
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u/StepOnMeNangong 9d ago
I’ve been on this platform for like 10/11 years now and I swear the platform (and especially the app, I miss Apollo) has only ever gotten worse
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u/baseballlover723 10d ago
We are planning to release a statement of some form on it in the coming days.
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u/Maccaz15 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Maccaz 10d ago
With every new announcement the Reddit admins make, the closer they get to killing off what made Reddit Reddit to begin with, and now instead becoming more like Facebook or Twitter.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah x3 10d ago
In response to my removal here in last week's CDF for /u/dull_spot_8213's comment
I waited for a bit, but didn't see you post anything in the meta thread, so I'm going to post my response here, and you can feel free to reply to me for any questions.
To clarify, your post, as correctly guessed by a few other CDF-ers, was indeed removed because the art showed genitals, which hence breaks our "heavily NSFW" rule. This would've applied no matter if your art contained characters from anime, or an original character
As far as I can see, the art was created by you, and so they wouldn't fall under the "from anime/source material" exception. In addition, the fanart exception you noted (versions of their fanart with NSFW Nudity, but only in the comments of their [Fanart] posts and properly tagged) also would not apply in this case/CDF, as they will only be applicable if you had first posted a "non-heavily-NSFW" version of a otherwise rule-abiding fanart, standalone, as its own [Fanart]-flaired post, and then you posted the "heavily NSFW" version in the comments.
These rules have always been the case for CDF; and there have been other past occurrences where similar racy art has been removed as well, including from other regulars.
I will note that the removal for your post was delayed because none of the other mod team noticed it when you posted it originally, but resurfaced when I linked to it as part of a non-mod-activity-related comment; I also just want to clarify that if we had noticed it when you posted it, we would have also removed it then.
on a separate note, another member of the mod team will be on the way to post the usual mod report soon.
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 10d ago edited 10d ago
In addition, the fanart exception you noted (versions of their fanart with NSFW Nudity, but only in the comments of their [Fanart] posts and properly tagged) also would not apply in this case/CDF, as they will only be applicable if you had first posted a "non-heavily-NSFW" version of a otherwise rule-abiding fanart, standalone, as its own [Fanart]-flaired post, and then you posted the "heavily NSFW" version in the comments.
What I'm not understanding is this right here. So, from what I gather, original art unrelated to an anime, can't be made into a submission/post no matter what its content contains outside of CDF, which is why it's kept to the off-topic space CDF. The comment containing the art link was not fanart or anime related, and it was submitted as a comment. Edit: to add that I did preface the links with "NSFW", so it wasn't that anyone who clicked through the link didn't know what they were pursuing. So how do you "Flair" what can't be submitted as a post? Can you "Flair" a comment?
if you had first posted a "non-heavily-NSFW" version of a otherwise rule-abiding fanart, standalone, as its own [Fanart]-flaired post, and then you posted the "heavily NSFW" version in the comments.
So you can only have an anime related Fanart submission with "heavily NSFW" version linked in the comments, if it's a post? Which means all original art of this nature is excluded from all spaces? I think what's confusing me is the different rules applied to comments and posts, and how that correlates with CDF.
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u/chilidirigible 9d ago
What I'm not understanding is this right here. So, from what I gather, original art unrelated to an anime, can't be made into a submission/post no matter what its content contains outside of CDF, which is why it's kept to the off-topic space CDF.
That is correct.
So how do you "Flair" what can't be submitted as a post? Can you "Flair" a comment?
"Flair" specifically refers to top-level posts to the subreddit, which can have things like
Help,Discussion,Fanart, etc.
Comments themselves cannot be flaired.
You can use descriptive text to inform readers about what a comment contains, but that is not "flair" in the same sense, it would simply be offering description and any appropriate warnings in context.So you can only have an anime related Fanart submission with "heavily NSFW" version linked in the comments, if it's a post?
The section of the rules regarding hentai in general:
- Submissions and comments containing hentai or heavily NSFW content are not allowed. Heavily NSFW content includes visible female nipples, genitals of either gender, heavily implied sexual content, and sexual contact between characters. However, these rules do not apply to episode discussion/rewatch threads, given that the NSFW content is from that anime/source material, is relevant to discussion, and is properly tagged.
Exception: In comments only, NSFW Nudity (which includes nipples, but excludes sexual contact and visible or outlined genitalia) is allowed as long as the images come from an anime episode or source material. The content must be relevant to the conversation and properly tagged or it will be removed. Additionally, artists are allowed to post versions of their fanart with NSFW Nudity, but only in the comments of their [Fanart] posts and properly tagged.The bolded portion at the end is, indeed, as you have understood it.
Which means all original art of this nature is excluded from all spaces? I think what's confusing me is the different rules applied to comments and posts, and how that correlates with CDF.
CDF Rule 5 states:
- All /r/anime rules, other than the anime-specific requirement, should still be followed.
While CDF is the place for general off-topic discussion, it still falls within the subreddit's overall guidelines; no specific naming of pirate sites, for example.
The broader NSFW rules still apply even within CDF, regardless of the origin of the subject matter. Thus, links containing female nipples, anybody's genitalia, and sexual acts are still not allowed.
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 9d ago
Understood. To further clarify: there are no restrictions on violent imagery (bloody battle scenes and the like?) Just nudity/sexual content? And does the team plan on making any changes to modernize these restrictions? Properly tagged content should be sufficient, especially in a subreddit dedicated to art forms that regularly include a wide array of adult content. I understand wanting spaces to be open to all, but all should include an adult audience as well.
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u/chilidirigible 9d ago
Just nudity/sexual content?
At present that would be the case.
And does the team plan on making any changes to modernize these restrictions?
There have been discussions about changing some of the rules at various times. There are not currently any specific plans.
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 9d ago
There have been discussions about changing some of the rules at various times. There are not currently any specific plans.
If this remains a topic of discussion that keeps popping up among the mod team and users, maybe it's time to revisit the rules? I dunno how that process is handled, but going off of what /u/baseballlover723 mentioned here, it sounds like a kick the can down the road situation, which is understandable, but still frustrating.
Questions about the rule that I'd bring up: is anyone actively harmed by choosing to view nudity and sexual content when it's already permissible content in the context of anime episode threads and anime fanart links, especially if the content is appropriately labeled? It seems silly to ask, but the reasoning behind the moderation would be helpful to understand why this rule is even necessary.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 9d ago
If this remains a topic of discussion that keeps popping up among the mod team and users, maybe it's time to revisit the rules?
This is somewhat backwards to the reality of the situation. It's a topic that keeps popping up in discussion because different mods (and different members of /r/anime) have divergent views about where lines should be drawn. Additionally, it's not as simple as there being two distinct camps. Instead, there are numerous different viewpoints that overlap in strange ways.
Because of this, there is no obvious path forward for revisiting the rules. There's no obvious coalition for either making them tighter or looser with regards to NSFW material. As such, we have remained in our current state. If one mod really wanted to, they likely could spend a couple hundred hours of their life spearheading an overhaul of our NSFW rules, but in reality they effect such a small portion of our sub that they've never been the priority of any mod during the time I've been on the team.
is anyone actively harmed by choosing to view nudity and sexual content when it's already permissible content in the context of anime episode threads and anime fanart links, especially if the content is appropriately labeled? It seems silly to ask, but the reasoning behind the moderation would be helpful to understand why this rule is even necessary.
Speaking generally, there are benefits to maximums. NSFW, in theory, can cover anything from someone in revealing underwear to someone getting brutally sexually assaulted. I assume I do not need to justify why most people would not want to open a link simply tagged "NSFW" and see the latter? So, if we were to allow a broader range of NSFW content, we would at the very least have to impose much more stringent requirements on how said content is marked, which both is a non-trivial task for us and annoying to explain to others.
Additionally, we want /r/anime to generally be a SFW/minor-friendly space. This of course does not mean all parts of it are or should be, but "unnecessary" NSFW content in the midst of otherwise SFW discussion does not lead towards the sort of subreddit we envision /r/anime to be.
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 9d ago
have divergent views about where lines should be drawn. Additionally, it's not as simple as there being two distinct camps. Instead, there are numerous different viewpoints that overlap in strange ways.
I never assumed it was a simple process, or that there were only two camps of thought, just that there is a debate to be had.
If one mod really wanted to, they likely could spend a couple hundred hours of their life spearheading an overhaul of our NSFW rules, but in reality they effect such a small portion of our sub that they've never been the priority of any mod during the time I've been on the team.
Would it really take a couple hundred hours to apply the same content warning standards to all spaces/comments? If we allow Heavily NSFW content linked in Fanart Post Comments, what's the hurdle to allowing it in off-topic discussion? It would make more sense if it wasn't allowed in any spaces, but that's not the case either.
NSFW, in theory, can cover anything from someone in revealing underwear to someone getting brutally sexually assaulted. I assume I do not need to justify why most people would not want to open a link simply tagged "NSFW" and see the latter?
I understand the point, but is this not a bit patronizing at the same time and taking personal accountability out of the equation? If you don't want to see NSFW content, nothing is forcing you to click NSFW links. I agree that content should be explicitly labeled for those who do/do not want to view it, and would be in favor of stringent labeling requirements, because at least then you're creating an environment that allows for more inclusion, not less. I don't think the existence of NSFW content has stopped anyone from pursuing the content they do enjoy here, right? I could be wrong, but judging by the clips that generate the most approval, this community, broadly speaking, does not seem to be bothered NSFW content, and, if anything, a majority would welcome less restriction.
SFW/minor-friendly space. This of course does not mean all parts of it are or should be, but "unnecessary" NSFW content in the midst of otherwise SFW discussion does not lead towards the sort of subreddit we envision
Just so I understand, an example of "unnecessary" NSFW content would be the original art post I shared in CDF? CDF would be considered a SFW/minor-friendly space, and to allow for that, NSFW content should be absent?
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 9d ago
Would it really take a couple hundred hours to apply the same content warning standards to all spaces/comments? If we allow Heavily NSFW content linked in Fanart Post Comments, what's the hurdle to allowing it in off-topic discussion?
Ok, so there's two sides to this answer. That weird exception for OP in the comments of their own Fanart post has been used precisely zero times during my tenure as a mod. So, while some of us certainly agree it doesn't make sense and is out of place, we (or at least I) also generally don't care about it. It's effectively irrelevant.
That's all to say that it likely wouldn't take too much time if my only goal was to convince other mods we should remove it. But, at the same time, why would I bother? After all, (until this conversation here) it has never had any effect on the sub in my experience. So it wasn't worth caring about.
If you don't want to see NSFW content, nothing is forcing you to click NSFW links.
This misses the point. I would hazard that most people want to see some types of NSFW, but don't want to see other types of NSFW. So just saying "don't click on anything tagged NSFW on the off-chance it contains the most horrific thing you've ever seen" isn't giving people agency/accountability.
In a different context, I would agree with you w.r.t. stringent labeling requirements. However, this is /r/anime. Its primary focus is discussing animation made in Japan. Our rules are centered around facilitating that. Thus, our rules specific to that (spoilers, Source Material Corner, &c.) can get incredibly specific and require a decent amount of manual mod work to properly enforce. Conversely, rules not central to that are generally less specific and require less effort to enforce. They're simply not as important, and we do not want to spend disproportionate amounts of effort on them.
And, yes, on some level our NSFW rule is not fair. People have posted far more erotic/horny art that does not fall afoul of it while yours does. I understand that's frustrating. I wish I had a better answer for you there beyond that writing a rule that fairly encompasses human sexuality and can be consistently enforced by more than one person is impossible, so proxies must be used instead. And that, next time, if you put a censor box over the penis, you can post it just fine.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 8d ago
if you put a censor box over the penis, you can post it just fine.
Your friendly neighborhood fujoshi checking in to ask how big the box needs to be. Dick censorship is far from straightforward.
I would hazard that most people want to see some types of NSFW, but don't want to see other types of NSFW. So just saying "don't click on anything tagged NSFW on the off-chance it contains the most horrific thing you've ever seen" isn't giving people agency/accountability.
Ok, two things. 1. I wish you all had this energy for the spoiler rules instead of telling people to put more and more under spoiler tags, leaving people unable to know if the black box contains a content note, historical context, or an actual spoiler. 2. I can't say I've ever seen someone post NSFW art without comment. So, honestly, I think caveat emptor applies just fine to clicking an NSFW link without reading what the poster said about it.
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 9d ago
So, while some of us certainly agree it doesn't make sense and is out of place, we (or at least I) also generally don't care about it. It's effectively irrelevant.
I didn't come up with the rule, I was just responding to it. I think you understand that I wouldn't even have brought this up if it wasn't relevant to the issue I unknowingly ran afoul of. I get you don't care about the rule, but since I ran afoul of it, I had to address and understand it.
But, at the same time, why would I bother? After all, (until this conversation here) it has never had any effect on the sub in my experience. So it wasn't worth caring about.
I wasn't going to raise this conversation here because it did seem like the mods had better things to do. But it also kinda sucks to then be berated about how little your issue matters when it does come up. Essentially, this topic is just an inconvenience to the mods, is how it comes off. I don't think you intend it that way, you're just trying to explain the logic.
I would hazard that most people want to see some types of NSFW, but don't want to see other types of NSFW. So just saying "don't click on anything tagged NSFW on the off-chance it contains the most horrific thing you've ever seen" isn't giving people agency/accountability.
That's why I also agreed with proper labeling. If I had posted something that fell in "the most horrific thing you've ever seen category", I would be more sympathetic to this argument. But we both know that's not the case. I do get the point, but I'd still argue in favor of user discretion and labels being sufficient vs uneven enforcement that doesn't always make sense.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 10d ago
Not to hijack the discussion - if it feels like this, I can delete and open a new comment about this) but perhaps the confusion came from the fact that the NSFW rule seems to be the least consistently enforced rule in r/anime;
Some time ago one of my comment was removed for NSFW (more specifically, not being properly tagged) and I was puzzled because (be it me at the time, or the other screenshot-posting users) almost nothing's ever tagged and I never see anything get removed.
Ever since that removal, I paid a bit more attention to it, by curiosity, and... Nothing really changed; I see lots of comments with nudity not tagged and not removed, often in threads with lots of removals so there's no way no one saw it.
(Personally I always thought that rule was a little silly hence why I can't be arsed reporting them, like if you just watched an episode with titties, you shouldn't be surprised seeing the same titties in the thread.. But my personal take on it aside, the lack of consistency is what makes this even more puzzling, like if it was in the Broken Saintess thread which no one watches sure, but it's often in a top 20 show of the season which surely gets lot of attention).
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson 10d ago
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Some time ago one of my comment was removed for NSFW (more specifically, not being properly tagged) and I was puzzled because (be it me at the time, or the other screenshot-posting users) almost nothing's ever tagged and I never see anything get removed.
Yeah... so thanks for confirming that when I forget to patrol good shows like Kamui san nothing happens.
We are discussing this internally (please make a mod app I am once again asking)
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 10d ago
After watching Even the Student Council Has Its Holes first episode, which had its own funny 4th-wall-breaking-commentary about what can and can't be shown on TV, and then does it anyway, I did wonder about how this one will be handled.
Dara San had some, as far as I'm concerned, tame nudity, but I was genuinely surprised to see it streaming on Chrunchyroll. Neither of these shows are "Hentai" but I do wonder if this space's aversion to suggestive themes and content is a little outdated. Extreme violence is obviously unrestricted and rarely criticized by comparison, but the tiptoeing around sexual content remains.
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson 10d ago
/r/anime takes a maximally permissive stance when it comes to Tagged NSFW in comments.
As long as there is any reasonable version that is not porn then the whole show is considered not porn. We've discussed Chuhai Lips, Nukitashi the Animation, Do you like Big girls, and A kite.
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 10d ago
takes a maximally permissive stance when it comes to Tagged NSFW in comments.
Does this apply to episode threads if you share images from the episode within the context of the episode thread? Do you need to tag every comment NSFW that contains say NSFW screen shots from the episode everyone presumably watched?
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 10d ago
We are discussing this internally
Food for thought for the internal discussion:
Given these untagged images almost never get removed, I imagine they never get reported, and if that's the case, perhaps the users don't really have an issue with them (in threads for NSFW anime)!
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson 10d ago
Yes, we are discussing a rule change more broadly
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u/baseballlover723 10d ago
Some time ago one of my comment was removed for NSFW (more specifically, not being properly tagged) and I was puzzled because (be it me at the time, or the other screenshot-posting users) almost nothing's ever tagged and I never see anything get removed.
That sounds about when Nukutashi or You See Big Girls was airing, and there was a greater debate about what counts as hentai and want is allowed as a screenshot and what is the proper way to post those things.
As I recall, the exception for sharing nipples or genitalia explicitly require it to be called out as NSFW. Though as you mention, it's hardly ever been enforced (since we don't have image processing based autoreporting), likely because well, if people are watching the show (an safe assumption if they're in the episode discussion thread), then they should be ok with seeing the very things that are part of the anime.
IIRC, around that time, I tried to push for simply marking the episode discussion threads as NSFW (for anyone not watching the show and who stumbled into the thread, perhaps out of curiosity), but like many things, it kinda just stalled and got forgotten about.
There was also some big NSFW rework that was in the works like a year ago that also stalled out, so there were conflict questions about that as well.
I'd offer to champion something for this (most likely changing the rule to better reflect the status quo), but I really don't have time for more things on my plate, so it won't come from me.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 10d ago
I tried to push for simply marking the episode discussion threads as NSFW
I think one issue with this would be that some people have the filter on by default and thus would often miss a thread.
But yeah it's no big deal, nowadays I mostly get around this by just tagging my entire comment NSFW (hopefully that's okay hah) but yeah I was just giving perhaps a perspective about the confusion!
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u/baseballlover723 10d ago
I mostly get around this by just tagging my entire comment NSFW (hopefully that's okay hah)
I suspect by technicality, it's not, but I also don't think it's likely to be strictly ruled by the book anytime soon.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 10d ago edited 10d ago
September Mod Report
I didn't vanish into the boonies without any internet this month, so I'm alive to make this post. Excited for the new season starting up to close out what has been a pretty great year of anime. We'll see if it's a fitting conclusion or not.
Notable updates from the past month:
This was something that we usually did already. Main point of discussion here was that "-tard" is a term that we banned in comments/posts, and someone wasn't clear on if this would also apply to usernames. So we through it to a vote since it was previously an informal policy that we wanted to know we had a specific policy on. This also applies to names that try to obfuscate what they're doing.
We ran a AMA with Evan Call. (They reached out to us via a Reddit Community Team member).
r/anime Awards juror apps are now open!
September By The Numbers